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Tiger, Panther, and King Tiger

Started by PanzerWulff, October 15, 2008, 07:34:36 PM

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Sauragnmon

I would point to the schematic images, and then to the views of the MK-108 - those are not the same weapon.  The 108's barrel was notoriously short owing to the rate of fire it retained, earning it the nickname of Pneumatic Hammer.  Those look more like the longer-barrel 103, which would have been a little more effective for surface to air fire.  The 108 couldn't have its barrel extended, as that was the maximum practical length for the weapon with its rate of fire.
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The weapon in the cupola drawings is clearly a Mk 108, the Mk 103 is a longer, heavier weapon, its barrel alone
being much longer than the overall length of the Mk 108.
http://deutscheluftwaffe.de/archiv/Dokumente/ABC/m/MK%20103/MK%20103%20Maschinenkanone.htm

So I took this photo from the Mk 108 page:

pulled it into photoshop, flipped it, used levels to adjust the lights and darks, blew away the background and turned it
red, overlayed the result on part of the posted AA mount drawings and scaled the it to fit based on the front and rear
edges of the receiver. The result is attached.

Sauragnmon

Der, my bad, forget I said anything - I mixed up the threads.  I thought we were looking at the Kugelblitz and Destroyer 45, just wandering off in friggin lala land.
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Macal

Hi guys!

Reading this topic for a while, cause I'm started to build a Bergetiger (P) but in my approach :) :mellow:
I was started thinking about this model when I've have started the making of my LauferTiger with full interior. The problem was simple: if I'll put everything together, no one can see anything of the interior, so I have to make it visible. I found out that It has to be built in under repairing, so most of the parts can be seen.
But there came on other problem: most of the existed cranes witch ones was used in the fields of the world war and after period just wasn't enough tall to reach the top of my walker, and can't lift down the turret. So I have to make my version :)
This is what I've made:


rickshaw

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The Germans tended to use large, semi-mobile gantries for most of their heavy lifting.  Turret removal and other heavy maintenance tasks would have usually been undertaken at third line maintenance workshops, rather than first or second line units.  A role not normally undertaken by ARVs.  Here is a picture of a model of the sort of cranes the WWII Germans used in their third line maintenance workshops:

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Macal

Quote from: rickshaw on March 11, 2010, 02:06:31 AM
The Germans tended to use large, semi-mobile gantries for most of their heavy lifting.  Turret removal and other heavy maintenance tasks would have usually been undertaken at third line maintenance workshops, rather than first or second line units.  A role not normally undertaken by ARVs.  Here is a picture of a model of the sort of cranes the WWII Germans used in their third line maintenance workshops:

Ok, than 3rd line :) Maybe second...But my idea is something like this:




Logan Hartke

Quote from: rickshaw on March 11, 2010, 02:06:31 AM
The Germans tended to use large, semi-mobile gantries for most of their heavy lifting.  Turret removal and other heavy maintenance tasks would have usually been undertaken at third line maintenance workshops, rather than first or second line units.  A role not normally undertaken by ARVs.  Here is a picture of a model of the sort of cranes the WWII Germans used in their third line maintenance workshops:

Agree completely.  The more front-line units performing this work was not unheard of, however.  There is some precedent for making such an ARV.

See this thread for more pics.

Cheers,

Logan

Macal

Quote from: Logan Hartke on March 11, 2010, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: rickshaw on March 11, 2010, 02:06:31 AM
The Germans tended to use large, semi-mobile gantries for most of their heavy lifting.  Turret removal and other heavy maintenance tasks would have usually been undertaken at third line maintenance workshops, rather than first or second line units.  A role not normally undertaken by ARVs.  Here is a picture of a model of the sort of cranes the WWII Germans used in their third line maintenance workshops:

Agree completely.  The more front-line units performing this work was not unheard of, however.  There is some precedent for making such an ARV.

See this thread for more pics.

Cheers,

Logan

Geee...Thanx! Great pix!

Jeffry Fontaine

Macal,

Your tracked vehicle mounted crane could also be considered for use as a specialist vehicle for hoisting heavy objects between trucks and rail wagons.  Perhaps assisting in the transfer of large caliber artillery shells or maybe rockets.  The bulldozer blade would be justified by requiring a level surface from which to work and the spade for the need to remain as stationary as possible during the lift operations. 
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Or, considering its relationship with the T-34 and by extension the BT tanks, VK3002(DB) with convertible drive?  ;D
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Does anyone have pictures of late-model Tiger I's road wheels?  Specifically ones that show how they are overlapping but not interleaved?

Thanks in advance.
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Quote from: GTX on January 31, 2009, 01:25:13 PM
One of the apparent problems encountered with the Panther's interleaved suspension was that it could freeze up in the Russian winter, so what if this was changed to something more conventional......

Late model Tiger I, two limited production runs of Panther, and Tiger II are equipped with overlapped but not interleaved roadwheels- did the new system still freeze up over adverse winter terrains?

I found this on a remote controlled scaled model website...... said to be the overlapping but non-interleaved roadwheel set.
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