Converting Civil Aircraft to Military use

[jcf]

Hasegawa 1/48th biz jet series (also released by Revell):
Lear 35A
Cessna Citation I
Dassault Falcon 10

Testors 1/48th (formerly IMC):
Lear 24

1/72nd kits from the 72nd scale census site:
  Canada
Canadair Challenger            Execuform 07

  France
Dassault Falcon 20                    Mach 2 72007
Dassault Mystere 10            Airdoc 7208
Dassault Mystere 20            Mach 2 72007

  Germany
HFB 320 Hansa Jet                    Airmodel 035

  Israel
IAI 1123 Westwind                    Leoman, Masterkit, Top Kit

  Italy
Piaggio PD.808                    Sky Models 7205

  UK
HS 125 Dominie                    Airfix 00389, Liberty LQK7212, LQK7219
HS 125-600                            Matchbox PK110


  USA
Cessna Citation V                    Sanger 7211
Gates Learjet 35A                    Rareplanes 03005, RVHP 2198 , 2199 , 2202 , 2203 , 2204 , 2205 , 2206 , 2207 , 2208 , 2209 , 2210
Gates Learjet 36A                    RVHP 2201
C-21A Learjet                            RVHP 2200
R-35A Learjet                            RVHP 2205
U-36A Learjet                            RVHP 2211
Gulfstream GIV                    Broplan MS-53, Welsh EJP 72/1
Rockwell T-39A Sabreliner    Airmodel 193
Rockwell T-39D Sabreliner    Airmodel 193

Jon

[ChernayaAkula]

Is there a kit (preferably 1/72 or 1/144) of the Shorts 330/C-23 Sherpa? I'd really like to build one of those gunships one day! 

[kitnut617]

Is there a kit (preferably 1/72 or 1/144) of the Shorts 330/C-23 Sherpa? I'd really like to build one of those gunships one day! 

Aeroclub did one in 1/72 which is multi media, I've got one in the stash, also Welsh Models does a 1/144 multi media kit.  You will have to search the second hand websites for the Aeroclub kit but here's a link to the Welsh Models one: http://www.welshmodels.co.uk/MTrange.html

[kengeorge]

Morning,
   Been busy whiffing up more DC-8's.
   1st one is a Royal Australian Air Force E-3D AWACS, followed by an RAAF C.2.KR AAR.
   3rd is a Royal Swedish Air Force E-3D AWACS.
   Last, is a USAF Airbus CV-34 (yes another Air Force One!).
   ChernayaAkula, I would love to see a gunship Sherpa made plastic, go for it!
   Ken. 

[ChernayaAkula]

Captain Canada's BAe-146s (HERE), the Sherpa Gunships (HERE and HERE) and Sentinel Chicken's BAe-146 C-23 replacement (HERE) got me thinking: How about a BAe-146 converted to a gunship like the Sherpas? 

[Just call me Ray]

Come to think of it, SAAB has some Falcons and Mu-2s used for captive-carry missile tests.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hHpKhUsu_R8/ST7XCeC1nnI/AAAAAAAAAtc/sge4KFskGiw/s1600-h/IMG_8887.JPG

http://www.airliners.net/photo/SAAB%20Nyge%20Aero%20AB/Mitsubishi%20MU-2F%20(MU-2B-20)/1294599/L/&width=1024&height=695&sok=WHERE__(airline_%3D_%27Saab_Nyge_Aero_AB%27)_&sort=_order_by_photo_id_DESC_&photo_nr=2&prev_id=1330518&next_id=1204913

you can in particular see the pylons on the Falcon

[kengeorge]

Morning,
           Been busy doing other things however I have done a quartet of
Airbus' and DC-8's.
1 is an RAAF C.2KR in low viz.
2 is a NATO E.3D also in low viz
3 is a NATO E.5B J-AWACS (A340-200) part of Operation Safe Waters and
4 is an RAF Airbus KC.1A also part of Operation Safe Waters-having a possible back story concerning
piracy in the gulf of Aden. Who knows?
          ChernayaAkula, I have been cleaning up some BAe-146 blanks, Hmmm, AC-146? sounds good,
any suggestions on armament fit? Got my own but always ready to listen (or is it read)? other people's opinions.
Ken

[GINge!]

Always wanted to a convert my Canadair CL-415 into a replacement for the Albatross, but in RCN markings of course!

[kengeorge]

Morning,
          I have been looking at Captain Canada's thread on http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,4727.0.html
very interesting and had inspired me to put my BAe-146 blanks to good use.
1st is my take on CC's Canadian Armed Forces BAe-146 STA from 8 Wing Trenton
2nd is a CAF BAe-146 SAR bird from 9 Wing Gander
3rd is a Canadian Navy CC-146 from 2 Transport Wing Sheerwater
4th however is a US Army Shorts C-23B of the Golden Knights Parachute Display Team.
Any comments?
Thanks
Ken

[ChernayaAkula]

Nice profiles! Especially the SAR version!

Now a BAe-146 converted to a gunship like the Sherpas, please! 

[kengeorge]

Morning,
           Thanks fo the comments guys, apohhenia, I was not aware of the change or for that matter
unification of the Canadian forces, or anything like that, thanks for correcting me.
           Anyway, been doing some more profiles-
1st is an RAF BAe-146 C.1A of 30 Sqn on TDY at Camp Bastion.
2nd is a USAF BAe-146 LC-24C Trader of the 139th AS New York Air Guard. Ski equipped so it can operate in the arctic circle Servicing the DEW line sites. This aircraft also has a panel ahead of the cargo door to fit JATO bottles.
3rd is an Armada Mexico BAe-146 C.2B Maritime patrol aircraft complete with nose mounted FLIR, side mounted SLAR and a tail MAD stinger.
4th just for chernaya Akula-is a USAF AC-24E 'Silent Stalker' of the 19th SOS. Thought about calling it 'Whispering Death' perhaps not, not PC enough is it.
            Armament-1x 20mm M-61 1x 7.62mm M134 1x 90mm Cockerill Low Recoil Force gun. Under nose FLIR Dorsal SATCOM hump chaff and flare dispensers near the tail, an DIRCM jammer and a tail ramp!
            Tell me what you think,
             Ken
PS Might do an IAF AC-24E...Hmmm..........

[pyro-manic]

Some ideas for gunship conversions:

Armstrong Whitworth Argosy - similar to AC-130, with a howitzer (QF 25-pounder?) and some heavy-calibre machine guns/cannon in the side of the cargo bay. Possibly upgrade the engines.
Blackburn Beverley - as above.
Bristol Superfreighter - re-engine with turboprops, mount a turret with a few 20mm/40mm cannon in place of the nose clamshell doors?

There's the Airfix kit of the Superfreighter easily available, so it could be a fun bash. No idea on the Argosy (is there a vacform available?), but I suspect it'd be a pretty expensive project. Same goes for the Beverley.

[ChernayaAkula]

Yeah! AC-24 rocks!  The Cockerill is a neat touch. I'd have thought 40mm would be tops, but the Cockerill does make sense!

[PR19_Kit]

Some ideas for gunship conversions:
Armstrong Whitworth Argosy - similar to AC-130, with a howitzer (QF 25-pounder?) and some heavy-calibre machine guns/cannon in the side of the cargo bay. Possibly upgrade the engines.
Blackburn Beverley - as above.

A gunship Beverley? Sounds of hysterical laughter from the South West!

You'd have to ensure there wasn't a sign of any slew forward to the aim, or the recoil would stop the Bev dead! Perhaps another idea would be to mount a 5.5" medium in the cargo bay aiming out the back door? That would accelerate the Bev and put a heavier weight  of fire down, but aiming may be a problem.

[kitnut617]

Some ideas for gunship conversions:

Armstrong Whitworth Argosy - similar to AC-130, with a howitzer (QF 25-pounder?) and some heavy-calibre machine guns/cannon in the side of the cargo bay. Possibly upgrade the engines.
Blackburn Beverley - as above.
Bristol Superfreighter - re-engine with turboprops, mount a turret with a few 20mm/40mm cannon in place of the nose clamshell doors?

There's the Airfix kit of the Superfreighter easily available, so it could be a fun bash. No idea on the Argosy (is there a vacform available?), but I suspect it'd be a pretty expensive project. Same goes for the Beverley.

Two 1/72 kits are available of the Argosy, Magna Models does a resin military version and Aircraft in Miniature does a vacuform of the civil version.  Sanger does a 1/72 vacuform of the Beverley.