Pulqui I, Pulqui II and other Argentinian projets

[ysi_maniac]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulqui

Last night I was planning measuring, collecting bits, ... to build a Pulqui II with an Airfix 1/72 MiG-15.

[kitnut617]

I've been trying to get one of those from here Carlos:

http://llama84.tripod.com/

[dy031101]

Of other Argentine projects, I just couldn't forget IA 37 fighter designed by Reimar Horten.

(Come to think of it, other than the use of a conventional turbojet, it looks a bit similar to Alexander Lippisch's P.13b, another aircraft that infinitely fascinates me...... was Argentina ever facing any oil crisis?  Imagining a coal-powered IA 37 is an infinitely cool exercise......  )

[kitnut617]

I've got a Llama 1/72 Calquin kit Lee, it's not too bad, not RarePlane that's for sure.  I was looking at photos of the real thing and thought that the u/c looked very similar to a Beaufighters, but then just now when looking for some engine nacelles I could use to enhance the kit, I suddenly realised what they are.  Because the Argentineans couldn't get the Merlins that they wanted for it, they went with what they had in abundance, and that was C-47's.  The engines and u/c, tail wheel included, come from a C-47.

Now where did I put that Dakota kit ------

[ysi_maniac]

The fuselage of the Pulqui II is much larger and chunkier than a MiG 15. Going off Justo Miranda's drawings, you're better off using a Matchbox Mystere as a basis with modified PM Ta 183.

You are right, Pulqui II is greater than MiG-15. But Airfix kit has an accuracy problem: fuselage is clearly oversized, in fact its scale is 1/66 However, wings are 1/72. Anyway I had to modify/prolong nose to reproduce narrower intake in Pulqui, I hope that final result will be very close to accuracy. bttb wings donor will be an old Hasegawa F-86.

[Archibald]

There's a lovely derivative of the -37, it's the IAe-48.

Ogival-wings ala Concorde, plus small engine pods ala B-58 Hustler... a naval fighter for the Independencia carrier of 1958   

[ElectrikBlue]

There's a lovely derivative of the -37, it's the IAe-48.
Ogival-wings ala Concorde, plus small engine pods ala B-58 Hustler... a naval fighter for the Independencia carrier of 1958   

I was looking for a profile of the IAe-48 on the internet and found these links :

1) Wind tunnel model for the I.Ae. 48 (click on thumbs for bigger pics)
http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/Horten_Nurflugels/i_ae_37_48/body_i_ae_37_48.html

2) 15 screen caps of a very detailed FS2004 model of the I.Ae. 48 (language spanish/portuguese)
http://www.jrlucariny.com/Site2008/JRIA48M/jria48m.html

3) Small pics and profile with a few cross sections :
    - Story and data.
    - Bigger pic of the profile -> http://gvranjes.tripod.com/48pl_640.jpg

Regards,

EB

[Thorvic]

Classic Plane have the Pulqui II back in production along with the Me 300 Spanish/Egytion delta wing fighter.

It also looks as it Ludemanns have the Horten Iae-37 sorted out as well

G

[kitnut617]

Been reading about another Argentinian aircraft in the latest Air-Britain Archive magazine.  This is a very smart looking aircraft and is called the FMA IAe-30 Nancu and at first glance is looks like a DH Hornet wannabe.  But looking deeper into it it is as much like a Hornet than a Martin Baker MB5 looks like a P-51 Mustang.  The only real visual connection to a Hornet is the engine nacelles and props which are practically identical but the rest of it is very different.  First off it's an all metal aircraft and the fuselage has a totally different cross-section, it being ovoid (egg-shape) and the tail planes are mounted mid fin/rudder, the wing profile also has a slight visual connection to the Hornets but the u/c is totally wierd, the wheels attaching to forward facing swinging arms with short shock absorbers (like a motorcycle swinging arm), these wheels when retracted rotate 90 degrees so the wheel lies flat against the underside of the wing inside the nacelles.  For some reason the prototype is fitted with a clear perspex nose cone.

The fin and rudder look more like a Welkin's tail and to me this is what I envision an uprated Westland Whirlwind to look like.

[JayBee]

Go away, Oh thief of ideas!
The Whirlwind II is already under construction.
Merlins,four bladed props, lengthened fuselage (about 5 scale feet, imperial) and a decent bubble canopy.
Currently about 25% done, so at my rate of building look out 2012!!

JayBee

[Mossie]

I've wondered about the Pulqui II as a German aircraft, as it largely follows the Ta-183 design route through to completion.  Maybe thin the waist to accept the Jumo 004 rather than the Nene.  I thought it would suit a scheme similar to the ones I knocked up for the Fatherland thread:
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,15039.345.html

[Deon]

I assume you know the Pulqui 1 (IAe 27) is produced in 1/72 by Alliance Models? I don't know if this is any use to you...

[ElectrikBlue]

Some screen caps of a FS2004 model of the FMA IAe-30 Ñancú here :
http://www.jrlucariny.com/Site2008/nancu/nancu.html

EB

[kitnut617]

Some screen caps of a FS2004 model of the FMA IAe-30 Ñancú here :
http://www.jrlucariny.com/Site2008/nancu/nancu.html

EB

That's looks pretty good, but the u/c is all wrong, they don't look like that at all.  Like I said the wheel rotates 90 degrees to lie flat under the lower wing, not retract vertically like how it's shown in that link.  This is what they look like.