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BAe Sea Hawk II

Started by MartG, November 27, 2008, 12:31:07 PM

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Quote from: deathjester on November 28, 2008, 11:42:37 AM
This may be daft, but how difficult would it be to re-engineer the Hawk to be low observable?  That way, the Navy could field a low cost alternative to the F-35, with most of it's capabilities.

The hawk even in a stealthy upgraded form is in no way comparable to the F-35.  You might as well say the hawk could replace the Typhoon.

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Quote from: gunfighter on November 28, 2008, 11:56:32 AM
I´d go for Rafale Ms, which are relatively small but true combat fighters.

I can't see the UK buying Rafales after the political issues with Eurofighter v. Rafale

Quote from: GTX on November 28, 2008, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: deathjester on November 28, 2008, 11:42:37 AM
This may be daft, but how difficult would it be to re-engineer the Hawk to be low observable?  That way, the Navy could field a low cost alternative to the F-35, with most of it's capabilities.

The hawk even in a stealthy upgraded form is in no way comparable to the F-35.  You might as well say the hawk could replace the Typhoon.

Regards,

Greg

Yep - my backstory assumes there is a problem with getting the F-35 on time, and the Hawk is simply a stopgap
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Quote from: deathjester on November 28, 2008, 11:42:37 AM
This may be daft, but how difficult would it be to re-engineer the Hawk to be low observable?  That way, the Navy could field a low cost alternative to the F-35, with most of it's capabilities.

Might be more easy to just create an all new design...

gunfighter

Yes, sure buying the rafale would be a kick in the donkey for the british planners, but if you cancel the JSF there are only two options to embark a plane: rafale or super bug, and the second is rather big for the kind of carrier we are considering.
The hawk is small, cheap, easy to maintain, even nice  ;D, but imagine you have to deploy a task force to south east asia, and deal with those flankers...
Anyway, it´s a nice build  :bow:

MartG

Quote from: gunfighter on November 29, 2008, 01:04:40 PM
Yes, sure buying the rafale would be a kick in the arse for the british planners, but if you cancel the JSF there are only two options to embark a plane: rafale or super bug,

More likely the naval version of the Typhoon which has already been considered
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Murphy's 2nd Law - An object in motion will be going in the wrong direction
Murphy's 3rd Law - For every action, there is an equal and opposite malfunction


pyro-manic

Yup, BAE did a feasibility study for Typhoon N a few years ago, and apparently it's doable. Main differences are new, podded undercarriage, and a modified cockpit to give better landing visibility.

Sea Hawks would make a good stopgap light strike aircraft, I agree. I think the important thing would be to fit an uprated engine, and more stores pylons (possibly on an enlarged wing?).
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