Halftracks (M3, Sdkfz.251, and others) Questions and What-if Ideas?

Started by dy031101, December 14, 2008, 06:42:54 AM

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Quote from: rickshaw on October 08, 2010, 02:01:50 AM
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Quote from: dy031101 on October 08, 2010, 09:59:37 AM

... but given the example shown by the Cuckoo Panthers, I suppose my idea of emergency TDs made out of captured halftracks would still not have been out of question......  :wacko:

No... a Sdfkz 250, whatever with a 6 pounder ? M3 with a 50mm Pak ?
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Quote from: NARSES2 on October 09, 2010, 02:28:14 AM
No... a Sdfkz 250, whatever with a 6 pounder ? M3 with a 50mm Pak ?

Somehow I'm tempted to see a 3-inch gun when it comes to American contraptions.  :wacko:
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Quote from: dy031101 on October 09, 2010, 06:27:06 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 09, 2010, 02:28:14 AM
No... a Sdfkz 250, whatever with a 6 pounder ? M3 with a 50mm Pak ?

Somehow I'm tempted to see a 3-inch gun when it comes to American contraptions.  :wacko:

Yup, up front with a "flying Column" at the end of the War ?
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Quote from: NARSES2 on October 09, 2010, 07:34:09 AM
Yup, up front with a "flying Column" at the end of the War ?

For added motivation, possibly including someone experienced in having his towed gun overrun before.  ;D
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Quote from: dy031101 on October 09, 2010, 08:27:11 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 09, 2010, 07:34:09 AM
Yup, up front with a "flying Column" at the end of the War ?

For added motivation, possibly including someone experienced in having his towed gun overrun before.  ;D

;D ;D
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Mossie

Found this pic on Secret Projects of an Alvis Saladin with a half track arrangement similar to the Bandtrack mentioned earlier.  Maybe a more conventional half track might be an option for the JB Models/Airfix kit?

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dy031101

Quote from: Mossie on December 17, 2010, 02:41:28 PM
Maybe a more conventional half track might be an option for the JB Models/Airfix kit?

I can think of little to say other than "um...... cool half-track tank......  :cheers: "  Talk about an awesome idea.
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Quote from: Mossie on December 17, 2010, 02:41:28 PM
Maybe a more conventional half track might be an option for the JB Models/Airfix kit?

A bit like this?







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dy031101

There are a couple more pictures of HKP-902 first mentioned by rickshaw here.
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raafif

there's this SdKfz.250 Nue with extended rear end & Pak-38, modified (maybe immediately postwar) by Jugoslavia & now in the Belgrade Fortress -- 35th conversion available from New Connection.
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dy031101

Came across this manga contraption this morning.

Apparently intended to be a multi-turret heavy tank, which isn't exactly my cut of tea in terms of execution, but the turret appearance did make me think...... a HKP-902-like halftrack version of Cromwell/Comet?
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dy031101

Moving into a new house this week......

Unfortunately what this past week yielded includes a failed attempt to produce a mental note on a Cromwell hull combined with Sd.Kfz. 251 nose and Comet turret (because I, amongst other reasons, chose to use the unfamiliar Paint  :banghead:), hoping for something similar in style to the Selbstfahrlafette II......

Since I said "failed", I'm not entirely happy with the result- the hull looks to me a bit over-elongated, and the front wheel probably could be bigger......

Maybe I'll try again sometime after the move is more-complete......

Comments and suggestions are welcomed as usual though.
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Hobbes

These are some civilian halftracks that might give useful ideas:

These are often used by geology firms for their research (drilling for ground samples, seismic measurements). The tracks are lifted off the ground for on-road use, and lowered (lifting the wheels off the ground) for off-road use.


Dutch company Hovertrack build vehicles for agriculture, some based on truck chassis, others are purpose-built. All can be supplied with tracks around the rear wheels: