Me-410 Single-seaters?

Maverick · July 14, 2011, 02:56:05 AM

Looks quite 'normal' at first glance Greg. A quick look and you might just think it's an un-barbetted 410. Quite a subtle whif.

Regards,

Mav

dogsbody · July 14, 2011, 03:33:35 AM

Reminds me of a deHavilland Hornet.

The Wooksta! · July 14, 2011, 04:35:32 AM

It's nowhere near as graceful, elegant or pretty as De Havilland's finest.

PR19_Kit · July 14, 2011, 06:25:39 AM

Quote from: The Wooksta! on July 14, 2011, 04:35:32 AM
It's nowhere near as graceful, elegant or pretty as De Havilland's finest.

Is there ANY aircraft that fulfills those qualifications?

It irritates me that although I was alive before they broke up the last Hornet I never actually saw one.

The Wooksta! · July 14, 2011, 06:27:45 AM

Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 14, 2011, 06:25:39 AM
Quote from: The Wooksta! on July 14, 2011, 04:35:32 AM
It's nowhere near as graceful, elegant or pretty as De Havilland's finest.

Is there ANY aircraft that fulfills those qualifications?

Yes. The Spitfire! Plus the Hunter and Concorde.

PR19_Kit · July 14, 2011, 07:01:03 AM

Quote from: The Wooksta! on July 14, 2011, 06:27:45 AM
Yes. The Spitfire! Plus the Hunter and Concorde.

You wouldn't get any argument from my Dad on the first, if he was still alive. Mike McEvoy would be right there with you on the second too.

rickshaw · July 14, 2011, 07:28:51 AM

Personally, I believe beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like the single-seater 410. It's own lines are quite pleasing to my eye.

sequoiaranger · July 14, 2011, 08:35:20 AM

>Interesting that a counterweight is still required in the tail.<

More like amazing, actually.

Why get rid of the GIB to "save weight for better performance", then add virtually the same weight (80 kg) in the tail???

Unless...ALL Me-410's had the counterweight (?).

The Wooksta! · July 14, 2011, 09:37:20 AM

The 410 was a salvage of the Me 210 which was a total crock. IIRC, Messerschmitt himself interfered with the design, shortening it to save weight, which threw off everything and it flew like a brick. It took several years and many redesigns to sort it out.

jcf · July 14, 2011, 10:34:23 AM

Quote from: sequoiaranger on July 14, 2011, 08:35:20 AM
>Interesting that a counterweight is still required in the tail.<

More like amazing, actually.

Why get rid of the GIB to "save weight for better performance", then add virtually the same weight (80 kg) in the tail???

Unless...ALL Me-410's had the counterweight (?).

Getting rid of the GIB in a 410 also entails the complete removal of the barbette gun system, which weighed far more
than 80kg. So, even with the installation of the fuel tanks, and the rest of the gear associated with the GM-1 nitrous
boost system, re-balancing of the CG would still be required.

GTX · July 15, 2011, 12:57:17 PM

Quote from: dogsbody on July 14, 2011, 03:33:35 AM
Reminds me of a deHavilland Hornet.

Well Me 410 was called the Hornisse ("Hornet")

That was the look I was hoping for - now to model it and put on a Kriegsmarine carrier...

Regards,

Greg