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Boeing P-26

Started by GTX, February 27, 2009, 05:06:05 PM

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GTX

Hi folks,

Some Boeing P-26 whiff ideas:

In-line engine:



Updated version:



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Greg
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Jschmus

That upgrade looks better than what Boeing actually created, the P-29:
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Just call me Ray

What the, was Boeing trying to make a two-seat fighter or something? :unsure:
It's a crappy self-made pic of a Lockheed Unmanned Combat Armed Rotorcraft (UCAR), BTW
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jcf

Quote from: Just call me Ray on February 27, 2009, 08:22:29 PM
What the, was Boeing trying to make a two-seat fighter or something? :unsure:

Nope, the Model 264 was single seat and only slightly larger than the P-26.
The long canopy of the YP-29 (the second Model 264) was installed because
of dissatisfaction with the narrow cockpit enclosure of the first aircraft, the
XP-940. The XP-940 was eventually purchased, after modification as the YP-29A,
with an open cockpit.

YP-29A

The same thing happened with the Model 248, the USN XF7B-1.

XF7B-1, original configuration with closed cockpit


XF7B-1, later configuration with open cockpit

Boeing worked on another design for the Army that can be considered an
extension of the P-26 - P-29 line, the Model 278A (XP-32).

Jon


puddingwrestler

The P-26 always reminds me of the Fiat G-50 - if it must have a fully cowled engine, why not place it lower on the fuselage to emphasise this similarity?
I also think a seaplane variant is in order, and possibly an acrobatic biplane...
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Weaver

Apparently, when Polikarpov I-16s first appeared in the Spanish Civil War, the Nationalists christened them "Boeings" because it was assumed that they were derived from the P-26 in some way.

What if they'd been right? How about a Spanish Republican P-26, or possibly an operational 264 with cantilever wings and retactable u/c?
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GTX

Quote from: puddingwrestler on February 28, 2009, 08:32:17 PM
The P-26 always reminds me of the Fiat G-50 - if it must have a fully cowled engine, why not place it lower on the fuselage to emphasise this similarity?
I also think a seaplane variant is in order, and possibly an acrobatic biplane...

How are these:





regards,

Greg
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jcf

Boeing Model 281, export version of the P-26A (Model 266).
Twelve sold, 1 to Spain and 11 to China.

In another misidentification, the Polikarpov I-15 biplanes used by the Republicans were commonly referred to as ' Curtiss'
by the Nationalists,  which is amusing, as no Curtiss types took part.

http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/Spain/index.html

Jon

GTX

Two seat attack version:



Regards,

Greg
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dy031101

#9
There are a couple of foreign evolutions of export American designs- Buffalo (as Finnish Humu) and Hawk 75 (as Chinese XP-0).

The P-26 looks like a candidate for basis, too...... like a foreign take on the XP-29......
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NARSES2

I've really enjoyed building my old Revell P-26 for the current GB and will probably pick up another one if I spot one at a show. I could also get an AZ one (I could of sworn I had one ?).

Anyway a couple of ideas came to me and so I had a quick read of a couple of books on US aircraft I have and dug this thread out to see if they had been discussed previously.

One of the things I found out from the books was, as mentioned above by Jon, that Spain had bought a single P-26. Now whilst looking for the aforesaid AZ model I found I had their kit of the Breda Ba-27. Now supposing the Spanish Republican's used the P-26 and the Nationalist's Bredas ; confusing ? Would make a good pairing on a shared base me thinks.

The other question I have (Jon you can probably answer this) is were their any proposals to up gun the P-26 ? As far as I can see it only ever carried a single 0.5" and 0.3" mg or a pair of 0.3" mg's. I was wondering if it would have been possible to put a single 0.3" mg in each wing giving you 4 0.3" mg's ?

The other thing I read was that it was capable of carrying a 200lb external load. So would 4 x 25lb fragmentation bombs be appropriate ?
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I know I'm late, but the inline one looks rather nice to my eye.
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jcf

Nothing 'Real World' I've found about adding wing guns, not surprising
as the wing actually is quite thin. Under wing mounts would probably be
doable as a whif and very much of 'the period'.

The bomb rack was fuselage mounted and could carry two 100lb or five 30lb bombs.

While it looks very P-26-like the actual inspiration for the Breda is said
to be the Travelair Type R 'Mystery Ship'.

NARSES2

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on November 27, 2016, 02:01:00 PM
Nothing 'Real World' I've found about adding wing guns, not surprising
as the wing actually is quite thin. Under wing mounts would probably be
doable as a whif and very much of 'the period'.

The bomb rack was fuselage mounted and could carry two 100lb or five 30lb bombs.

While it looks very P-26-like the actual inspiration for the Breda is said
to be the Travelair Type R 'Mystery Ship'.

Cheers Jon. If I pick the kit up I'll go with the under wing mounts, and no bombs under the wings  :thumbsup:
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