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Started by Maverick, February 27, 2009, 08:17:16 PM

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Mossie

I like the way the huts have sprouted on the keel, like barnacles on a whale. Would be an interesting modelling subject. I'd like to see someone scratch the salvage vessel in the second photo.
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Quote from: Mossie on January 08, 2025, 12:31:56 AMI like the way the huts have sprouted on the keel, like barnacles on a whale. Would be an interesting modelling subject. I'd like to see someone scratch the salvage vessel in the second photo.

No need.  Takoma does a floating drydock model.  You'd just have to modify it to be era appropriate
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Will be interesting to see if anyone does a diorama of one of the scuttled ships, but builds it in such a way that you can see the hull/keel above the surface and the rest of the ship below the surface ?
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Would the turrets have fallen off, or were they bolted onto a retaining track?
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 08, 2025, 09:21:12 AMWould the turrets have fallen off, or were they bolted onto a retaining track?

The Bayern's turrets are described by a Scapa Flow diving guide thus "  Scattered across the anchorage their are literally dozens of sites where piles of underwater wreckage make fascinating exploring for the hundreds of divers who travel to Orkney each year. The most dramatic of these lesser sites are the four gigantic gun turrets of the battleship Bayern which lie close together, upside down where they fell when the ship was being salved."  This site:- https://www.scottishshipwrecks.com/the-german-high-seas-fleet/  has useful information
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 08, 2025, 09:21:12 AMWould the turrets have fallen off, or were they bolted onto a retaining track?
The main gun turrets of capital ships are held in place by their own mass. They're lowered into the barbette and rollers on the bottom of the turret sit on what is essentially a huge ring gear. If the ship turns turtle, the turrets fall out.

PR19_Kit

I figured it could be something like that, they do have a LOT of mass after all.  ;D  :thumbsup:
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Wardukw

There's no denying the weight of a battleships gun nain gun turret ..an extreme example is the Yamatos turrets..at 2800 tons apiece that's plenty to keep it in place  ;D
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Quote from: Wardukw on January 08, 2025, 11:55:21 PMThere's no denying the weight of a battleships gun nain gun turret ..an extreme example is the Yamatos turrets..at 2800 tons apiece that's plenty to keep it in place  ;D

What amazed me the first time I ever saw a diagram of one, a very, very long time ago, was the number of "floors" so to speak in a turret. Up until then I assumed everyone and everything cramed into the turret visible above the deck  :angel: . I was only about 7, and dad had never crewed anything larger than a destroyer's turret and as he often said most of them were only glorified shields. I have fond memories of him and uncle Harry discussing guns and turrets  :rolleyes: , Harry had been part of a 25pdr crew in Normandy, Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany.
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Quote from: Wardukw on January 08, 2025, 11:55:21 PMThere's no denying the weight of a battleships gun nain gun turret ..an extreme example is the Yamatos turrets..at 2800 tons apiece that's plenty to keep it in place  ;D

Unless there was a really big explosion underneath it.

I would imagine the water is a bit chilly up there in Scapa Flow.
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Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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Quote from: zenrat on January 09, 2025, 03:11:07 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on January 08, 2025, 11:55:21 PMThere's no denying the weight of a battleships gun nain gun turret ..an extreme example is the Yamatos turrets..at 2800 tons apiece that's plenty to keep it in place  ;D

Unless there was a really big explosion underneath it.

I would imagine the water is a bit chilly up there in Scapa Flow.

Or a Godzilla Attack  :rolleyes:

Rick Lowe

Quote from: NARSES2 on January 08, 2025, 05:13:22 AMWill be interesting to see if anyone does a diorama of one of the scuttled ships, but builds it in such a way that you can see the hull/keel above the surface and the rest of the ship below the surface ?

That's an interesting idea - not for me, but I imagine someone could be working on it as we converse...