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Gunbucket!

Started by Wyrmshadow, March 02, 2009, 04:09:40 AM

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Sauragnmon

Yeah, I was postulating on the claims of the writer, but completely doubtful of his words to begin with... mounting a suppressor to the slide is kinda counter-intuitive.  I noticed though in one movie that some revolver suppressors slid onto the barrel and had pressure-screws that held it in place once fixed on.  Probably a good way to mount them in the case of revolvers that have heavy reinforcement and such on top and below the barrel that goes practically right up to the muzzle.
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kitnut617

A story that is related to the above posts.

I had a friend who had quite a comprehensive collection of pistols and revolvers.  He told me one day that while at the range he had quite a scary thing happen to him while firing his semi-automatic (I think it was a Browning something-or-other).  Anyway, my friend said when he fired it he could have sworn he saw the bullet leave the barrel, so he fired it again and sure enough he saw the bullet leave the gun again. Another member of the gun club just happened to be watching and quickly came over and stopped my friend firing anymore because he saw huge flashes exiting the ejector slot as it was fired.  A quick inspection of the gun (safety on) revealed that the last bullet fired was still in the barrel, and had actually hit the previously fired bullet which was then shot out the barrel, except at very low speed.

The outcome of this was my friend cast his own bullets and self-loaded all his rounds and the last mix of lead he had got was of the wrong hardness so didn't form to the barrel groves as it passed along the barrel, the lead was too hard so the first bullet just stopped about halfway down, but when the next round was fired, that was what ejected the first bullet (and so on).  He was very lucky that the gun didn't just explode in his hands.
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deathjester

Quote from: dy031101 on January 21, 2010, 01:25:14 PM
Mauser C96 and certain models of Browning HP have that feature, too.

My grandfather had a particularly fond memory for the Canadian-made GP35, which was said to be some sort of a privilege within the WWII ROCA as the British had the nasty habit of seizing weapon supplies originally meant for Asian allies whenever they felt their butts were being handed to them by the Germans.
That reminds me:  Apparently, in the trigger mechanism of a Browning Hi-Power/GP35, there is a small piece that, if it breaks, makes the gun fully automatic, in that it will burn off the whole mag when you pull the trigger!

rickshaw

Quote from: deathjester on October 20, 2011, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: dy031101 on January 21, 2010, 01:25:14 PM
Mauser C96 and certain models of Browning HP have that feature, too.

My grandfather had a particularly fond memory for the Canadian-made GP35, which was said to be some sort of a privilege within the WWII ROCA as the British had the nasty habit of seizing weapon supplies originally meant for Asian allies whenever they felt their butts were being handed to them by the Germans.
That reminds me:  Apparently, in the trigger mechanism of a Browning Hi-Power/GP35, there is a small piece that, if it breaks, makes the gun fully automatic, in that it will burn off the whole mag when you pull the trigger!

The breech locking lever?  Without it, there is nothing that locks the breech in battery as the round fires.  Effectively the weapon becomes a blowback mechanism like used on an SMG but with one major caveat - there is no heavy weight built into the bolt (in this case the slide) to slow the ROF to something more manageable.  It also means that you will get increasing amounts of flashback as the rounds fire and the case is removed from the breech before all the powder is fully burnt.
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deathjester

I think that's was it was - sounded bloody dangerous, anway!

Sauragnmon

I wouldn't call that a full auto, as technically you'd have control.  That would be the evil and scary thing known as a Slamfire, where there's nothing that stops the firing pin from slamming forward after the slide cycles, causing it to trigger the next round immediately once the slide comes into place.  Very evil situation to be in, as it'll continue until either it misfires, jams, or runs out of ammo.  Kind of like the original Sten mk1, which could enter a slamfire state.

Kit, your friend is lucky indeed, if he'd fired any more ammo, he would have risked the chamber exploding as the gasses would have no place to escape, causing the case and chamber to explode in his face.  Fortunately most firearms are actually made so that if they do go critical it deflects the blast away from the user, but you still don't want to be in that situation.
Putty-fu, Scratch-jutsu and Bash-chi, the sacred martial arts of the What-If. Mastering them, is Ancient Chinese Secret.

Just your friendly neighbourhood Mad Scientist and Ship-whiffer.

Overkill? Nah, it's Insurance.  So are the 20" guns.