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Spanish Civil War GB?

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Overkiller

March 21, 2009, 04:26:53 PM Last Edit: April 18, 2012, 12:12:00 PM by Overkiller (aka Buffy)
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#1
March 21, 2009, 04:43:41 PM
Sounds good - maybe some tanks etc too?  A Spanish Gladiator sounds nice too.

Regards,

Greg
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Maverick

#2
March 21, 2009, 06:07:48 PM
I've done a bunch of aircraft profiles from an extended SCW.  They're currently in my Gallery.

Regards,

Mav

nev

#3
March 22, 2009, 07:14:26 AM
Not sure about the no jets rule - that would mean no Me262s or He162s, and I'm sure I've seen some cool SCW profiles of them....
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Radish

#4
March 22, 2009, 09:29:45 AM
Yowser :thumbsup:
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Brian da Basher

#5
April 17, 2009, 11:09:09 AM
I really like the idea of this GB as Spanish Civil War aircraft are so diverse which means almost anything built on that theme is incredibly convincing. I definitely want to join in the fun on this one!

If we can get ten or so interested members, we can ask Commisar Anthony to add it to the next poll or maybe even request it as a quick one month GB.
:cheers:
Brian da Basher

Weaver

#6
April 18, 2009, 05:14:45 AM
Interesting - Several things I've acquired/schemed could be relevent:

Fokker D.XXI and/or D.XXIII in Republican markings,

Captured I-16 refitted with a BMW VI by the Nationalists (engine from a Revellobox He-70). I'd originally intended this as a post-war mod but the back story could be adapted.

I.153 on either side with a different engine.
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JayBee

#7
April 18, 2009, 05:27:39 AM Last Edit: April 19, 2009, 12:54:57 AM by JayBee
Por favor, pretty por favor.
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PR19_Kit

#8
April 18, 2009, 06:40:00 AM
How about a very early Wellington, the one with no turrets, just a greenhouse fore and aft, done in Republican markings? I seem to remember someone did those turrets as a vacform some years ago, but darned if I can find mention of it now. It might not be that difficult to mould them from acetate sheet though.
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Regards
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Weaver

#9
April 18, 2009, 09:27:55 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 18, 2009, 06:40:00 AM
How about a very early Wellington, the one with no turrets, just a greenhouse fore and aft, done in Republican markings? I seem to remember someone did those turrets as a vacform some years ago, but darned if I can find mention of it now. It might not be that difficult to mould them from acetate sheet though.

Interesting:  :thumbsup:

As an alternative, didn't Frog do a Whitley?

OR

How about a Mk.I Blenheim?
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PR19_Kit

#10
April 18, 2009, 11:19:28 AM
Weaver,

Yes to both of those, but the Frog Whitley was a later Merlin engined Mk IV. At the time of the civil war they'd have most likely flown the earlier Tiger engined Mk Is. Not sure if anyone did a conversion for that, the Tigers were VERY small for an aircraft of that size.

The MkI Blenheim would work a treat and they are readily available in Frog and Novo forms. I even have a couple myself.

I couldn't find that turret conversion on Hannants site  but they have TONS of stuff for Wellingtons, including some stupidly expensive Wellington kits. :(
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Weaver

#11
April 18, 2009, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 18, 2009, 11:19:28 AM
Weaver,

Yes to both of those, but the Frog Whitley was a later Merlin engined Mk IV. At the time of the civil war they'd have most likely flown the earlier Tiger engined Mk Is. Not sure if anyone did a conversion for that, the Tigers were VERY small for an aircraft of that size.

Well one of the scenarios being suggested is the Civil War going on longer, so perhaps they'd get as far as the Merlin versions?

OR

You could concoct an "export" version with some other engine: Hispano Suiza Y-12s? Push-pull Kestrel or Mercury pairs? (I know the Mercuries would have cooling problems, but it's not like it was never tried....)

OR

The Tiger was a 14-cyl radial: could you nick some long radial cowlings off something else (the Revelbox He-70 has an alternative Gnome-Rhone cowling in it)?

OR

Add a third engine on the nose.......

"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

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 - Indiana Jones

ChernayaAkula

#12
April 18, 2009, 06:22:31 PM
Cool GB idea! :thumbsup:

Zactoman did some beautiful profiles for Spanish Viggens HERE, including one that is most unexpected.

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Cheers,
Moritz

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PR19_Kit

#13
April 19, 2009, 12:10:22 AM
Quote from: Weaver on April 18, 2009, 12:34:16 PM
The Tiger was a 14-cyl radial: could you nick some long radial cowlings off something else (the Revelbox He-70 has an alternative Gnome-Rhone cowling in it)?

Hm, that got me looking in The Loft and I found a Matchbox Wellesley. Not only would the aircraft itself fit the time frame to a T, but it has a long chord cowling included for the long range version.

So two Wellesleys to supply the Whitley MkI engines and you could use the aircraft in the scenario as well?

Tophe would join them together, with the crew in only one half. I like that idea...........  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Jostein

#14
April 19, 2009, 11:53:17 AM
A modification of Robert's PZL P.50A Jastrząb:

No pasaran!
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