My new project BAC Eagle, 617 Sqn.

kitnut617 · April 07, 2009, 08:55:40 AM

Well, pondering what to do for my next build I've decided to do one of my TSR.2's, using the XtraDecal scheme for 617 Sqn. and also totally and unashamedly influenced by this print below, who I don't know who to credit. This came about because while rumaging through some of the stash boxes I found all the external stores which are shown on the print that came off one of the Tornados I've got where I had removed them from the model when it was packed away for the house move (and still packed away) I did a trial dry fit to see how it would go and was quite surprise that it looks quite feasable.

A question to Joe though, is this board where to post my build or should I post in the Current Build board.

Robert

lenny100 · April 07, 2009, 09:18:47 AM

I have one of the limited number original prints of that hanging in my living room right now and it does look great as its about 1/48 scale in the print so its look relay sharp.
I was given it some time ago but cant remember from whom or why but the wife likes it so..........

kitnut617 · April 07, 2009, 10:16:16 AM

Who is the artist Lenny ?

PR19_Kit · April 07, 2009, 10:59:55 AM

Robert,

That piccie was in one of the RAF Yearbooks a short while back, spread across two pages, I have it somewhere.

That's Urquhart Castle you can see there, which means the Eagle is low down over ~~Lock~~ Loch Ness, presumably flying from Lossiemouth, just like 617 does today. It sure looks the business with that weapon load, amd it's presumably a GR4 with the added laser designator under the nose?

kitnut617 · April 07, 2009, 12:00:44 PM

Thanks for that Kit, I sure would like to have a copy of it someday. Someone on the ATF forum says this is Spey Valley, what do you think ?

I've got this print though, came with the kit I got from the Airfix Club when they had the last 250 for sale:

lenny100 · April 07, 2009, 12:35:06 PM

the artist is Ronald Wong and my copy was from AVPRO and is number 363 of 1000 signed copy's
if i remember it right the info sheet that came with it which i have lost said this was the final flight of the tsr2 in 1995 over lock ness as the aircraft flew into retirement following replacement by a AVPRO crusader which had a drawing of one of their designs with it

Edition Size : 1000
Type: Limited Edition Lithographic Print
Print Size : 28" x 20"
Date of Issue : 2000
Issue Price : UK£ 70
Edition Status : Available at Publisher
Medium : Oil
Description : This is a "What-if" type painting, showing what the TSR-2 would be like and doing in the present day if it had entered service with the RAF. For a start, the Tornado would never have become a necessity...

Signed by the artist.

Read Artist Bio data : Ronald Wong
See : Other Aviation Art by this Artist

the size of the picture

here is whats on the bottom

the signature and number

JayBee · April 07, 2009, 12:52:04 PM

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 07, 2009, 10:59:55 AM
Robert,

That piccie was in one of the RAF Yearbooks a short while back, spread across two pages, I have it somewhere.

That's Urquhart Castle you can see there, which means the Eagle is low down over Lock Ness, presumably flying from Lossiemouth, just like 617 does today. It sure looks the business with that weapon load, amd it's presumably a GR4 with the added laser designator under the nose?

Och! Dearie Dearie me Kit.
Lock Ness, indeed!!!
Loch Ness if you please, and pronounced with the glottal stop as in Johan Sebastian Bach.

Love the picture.

JimB

PR19_Kit · April 07, 2009, 02:34:34 PM

Jim,

Oops,. sorry, I knew all that really, but I was defeated by my letter-less keyboard. I can wear the letters off in less than a year, and no-one EVER sells spares!

Lenny,

Ah yes, that rings bells.The AVPRO guys were promoting their UAVs in the Yearbook and posted the TRS 2 pic across the centre and the three ship that you posted on the rear side. I know which one would be on MY wall!

Robert,

Lenny's post confirms that it's LOCH Ness

but I doubt the Spey is wide enough nor does it have steep enough sides to appear like that. Of course what we need is a native Scotsman to give us the true story on that. Do we know one handy, do you think?

Rafharrier · April 08, 2009, 02:57:59 AM

Hello Robert,

great choice the TSR.2 from sqn 617 with NATO standard camouflage.

I just finished mine, as a RAF Eagle GR.4A "Operation Telic 2003". I'll take some pics this evening and I'll post tomorrow morning.

I think I'll going to build a new one, I was thinking about an Israeli "Batz C.1I"... will see.

CIAO!
Piero

RLBH · April 08, 2009, 06:46:03 AM

That is indeed Urquhart Castle on Loch Ness.

The Spey valley has a fairly steep cross-section in places: north of Grantown it closes in quite a bit until Fochabers, although this stretch is quite well populated. And there's always the upper reaches, which are proper mountain country.

Captain Canada · April 08, 2009, 11:06:01 AM

Man, that picture is just wicked ! One of the most awe-inspiring aero prints I've ever seen ! If only....

Looking forward to seeing you Dambuster, Robert ! I think the sidewinders would look better on the outside of the pylon, tho....

kitnut617 · April 08, 2009, 12:13:46 PM

Quote from: Captain Canada on April 08, 2009, 11:06:01 AM
Man, that picture is just wicked ! One of the most awe-inspiring aero prints I've ever seen ! If only....

Looking forward to seeing you Dambuster, Robert ! I think the sidewinders would look better on the outside of the pylon, tho....

I've positioned the pylons at the moment where the actual pylon attachment points are, or at least shown on the kit where they are, but they are too close together for this load-out and there's no room for the 'winder to be on the outside Todd. 'Course I can do what I want can't I, so to my thinking the outer pylon could be move further out closer to the wing droop rather than moving the inner pylon closer to the fuselage, these must have been positioned where they are for a reason which might become obvious as I get into the build. Plus I might just change the 'winder to an AAM-120 as my model will be a much later in-service aircraft, maybe a GR.7 or something like that --- I've got this idea which I'm trying to work out but I'm not revealing anything until after I start cutting plastic --- yes I'm going to be chopping this about a bit

, but in a good way

GTX · April 09, 2009, 12:43:16 PM

Looking forward to this!

Regards,

Greg

lenny100 · April 09, 2009, 12:53:53 PM

Quote from: kitnut617 on April 08, 2009, 12:13:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Canada on April 08, 2009, 11:06:01 AM
Man, that picture is just wicked ! One of the most awe-inspiring aero prints I've ever seen ! If only....

Looking forward to seeing you Dambuster, Robert ! I think the sidewinders would look better on the outside of the pylon, tho....

I've positioned the pylons at the moment where the actual pylon attachment points are, or at least shown on the kit where they are, but they are too close together for this load-out and there's no room for the 'winder to be on the outside Todd. 'Course I can do what I want can't I, so to my thinking the outer pylon could be move further out closer to the wing droop rather than moving the inner pylon closer to the fuselage, these must have been positioned where they are for a reason which might become obvious as I get into the build. Plus I might just change the 'winder to an AAM-120 as my model will be a much later in-service aircraft, maybe a GR.7 or something like that --- I've got this idea which I'm trying to work out but I'm not revealing anything until after I start cutting plastic --- yes I'm going to be chopping this about a bit , but in a good way

if ypou need any close up scans of the origional then just let me know

kitnut617 · April 09, 2009, 03:07:40 PM

Quote from: lenny100 on April 09, 2009, 12:53:53 PM
if ypou need any close up scans of the origional then just let me know

Yes please Lenny

I was trying to figure out where the stores pylons would go so had dry fitted the kit so I could see where the u/c would be, and then drew a pencil line on the underside of the wing where I thought the cg of the load would be, that's when I noticed two little engraved circles which coincide with two little circle on the top side of the wing right almost where I drew the line. I've just assumed these are the pylon attachment points.