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Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...

Started by GTX, April 12, 2009, 02:30:28 PM

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GTX

Hi folks - my rough interpretation of what a 4-engined stretched Do-217 might look like:



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Greg
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PR19_Kit

Nice one, that'll be the Do-434 then?  -_-
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PR19_Kit

Oooh yes! 'Das Neue Ural Bomber' cries out to be done in plastic.

Do I have any Do-17 kits? No. Are any still in production? Probably not. Looks like eBay then.  >:(
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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McGreig

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 14, 2009, 02:07:02 AM
Do I have any Do-17 kits? No. Are any still in production?

The Airfix Do-17 was re-issued relatively recently (Hannants and my local Modelzone £10.99) and ICM do two Do-215s.

RS do a whole range of Do-17s, including the radial engined versions, but at over twice the price of the Airfix kit  :o an RS based Ural-Bomber could get expensive - - -

PR19_Kit

I may only need one Airfix kit. While digging around in The Loft I found an un-touched Monogram Do-17Z!

It's handy that the wings of any of the Monogram/Airfix/Frog Do-17s all fit any of the other kits, the spar cut-out is almost identical on all three.

Now I'll need a smaller early Do-17 type nose, I had one before and made a -17P out of it.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
Kit

Doc Yo

 Neat concepts, but given what Dornier had already done with the Do 26 flying boat, and would do with the
Do 335, I wonder if a 4-engined Do 217 wouldn't have had pusher/puller pairs, instead of four on the
leading edge....You might have to tweak the landing gear to get the pusher props to clear...

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Doc Yo on April 16, 2009, 09:38:02 AM
You might have to tweak the landing gear to get the pusher props to clear...

...or do what they did with the Do-26, put a hinge in the nacelles and lift them up for take-off and landing?
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

jcf

... and there is the tiniest Do 17 of all ...

the Goppingen Go 9

http://www.luft46.com/prototyp/go9.html



So how about buried engines and a counter-rotating pusher prop on a Do 17?

Jon


tomo pauk

(sorry to necro the old thread :) )

Ultimate Do-17, in push-pull configuration. Tandem seating for crew of 2, second engine just aft the wing. The U/C retracting would've needed some thinkering.
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The Wooksta!

Except your base drawing for the 4 engined 217 is actually a stretched 215 - which is just a Do 17Z with DB601s for the export market.  The Do 217, whilst superficially similar, is an altogether different airframe.
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sequoiaranger

I found a discussion at the "72nd Scale Aircraft" site:

http://z15.invisionfree.com/72nd_Aircraft/index.php?showtopic=2507&st=30&#last

on the Do-217M, extended-wing, reformed tail version that carried the heavy "Fritz-X" guided anti-ship bomb (the one that sank the Italian Battleship Roma).

Made me remember I have the "Guano Aeroplane and Zeppelin Works" aftermarket conversion kit and had planned to someday do a RW one from the Italeri Do-217K kit. And I have the Condor Fritz-X as well as another resin one.

Might actually semi-whif-it, making it Italian in desert camo, as if using it against British Fleet battleships in Alexandria (or Malta). Or against possible French immobilized ships in Toulon when Torch landed and the Axis were afraid that French Fleet units might actively return to the Allied side. *MIGHT* make it jet-powered like a He-343.
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Greg

can you make a 4 engined He111 diagram - I imagine an extended fuselage for a larger bomb bay

I have a couple of 72 scale kits to go that way

cheers

Bernie

sequoiaranger

dumiac: >can you make a 4 engined He111 diagram - I imagine an extended fuselage for a larger bomb bay<

Like ?:

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=4100

One of these days I am going to "Phoenix" my own creation with a Lindberg He-111 fuselage (1/64 approx) to enlarge/lengthen it.

But what does this have to do with Dorniers (subject thread)???
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