The Single Kit Kitbash GB

[Weaver]

You forgot rule 13b.

13.b. Neither the What If website nor the moderators of the GB shall not be liable for any injuries sustained by either party whilst the widow is fighting the cat for the tin of sardines.

[puddingwrestler]

DaFrog brought up an interesting point over MSN last night; use of molding technology to porduce resin duplicate parts. Originally I thought to count this in the raw materials allowance, then I thought better of it. The challenge is to use a single kit, and find ways around the limitations thereof, so:

Rule 16: No use of molding technologies to duplicate parts in any way.

[DaFROG]

DaFrog brought up an interesting point over MSN last night; use of molding technology to porduce resin duplicate parts. Originally I thought to count this in the raw materials allowance, then I thought better of it. The challenge is to use a single kit, and find ways around the limitations thereof, so:

Rule 16: No use of molding technologies to duplicate parts in any way.

Curse you... scrunches up piece of paper with plans for F14 with a whole extra third of the plane being cast from the original kit parts.... It's not like i even have casting technology

Now i'll have to do something boring like make a giant robot or a peice of agricultural equipment out of it...how effective WOULD a F14 be as a crop duster?

[Weaver]

DaFrog brought up an interesting point over MSN last night; use of molding technology to porduce resin duplicate parts. Originally I thought to count this in the raw materials allowance, then I thought better of it. The challenge is to use a single kit, and find ways around the limitations thereof, so:

Rule 16: No use of molding technologies to duplicate parts in any way.

How about use of molding technology to produce original parts though? And how "original" do they have to be? For instance, if I wanted, oh, I don't know, a non-lumpy Gannet canopy, and I sculpted a master from wood and them smash-formed a canopy from it, would that be okay? What if I used the original windscreen as part of the master?

(Note that I have no intention of doing any of this: I just like playing the rules-lawyer game..... )

[puddingwrestler]

You are not duplicating a part, so it comes under the 1/3 raw materials allowance.

Also rule 13C: Neither the website nor the moderator will be responsible for legal costs arrising from the cat suing the widow for custody of the sardines.

[puddingwrestler]

Gentlemen, I hearby bump this topic to get you all excited again.
Like Big Kev, only not so dead.


(Australian joke)

[Daryl J.]

What could be done with Monogram's P-61, what could be done with Monogram's P-61.   


Daryl J.

[puddingwrestler]

I could actually see a really sweet organic shapes mech from a P-61. Sleek and smooth, but with the double cockpit to allow for pilot and weapons controller. Maybe even a crab tank using the tail boom halves to creat four legs...

[Cliffy B]

What could be done with Monogram's P-61, what could be done with Monogram's P-61.   


Daryl J.

Midget sub? 

[puddingwrestler]

THREE midget subs. It's got tail booms as well!

[Cliffy B]

Go man, GO!!!

[Weaver]

Rules Question:

What about display stands/bases? If they're a kit component (say the classic Airfix stand) then do they have to come from the donor kit? If it doesn't have one, then can they come from another kit? If they're scratchbuilt, do they count against the 1/3 raw materials rule? What happens if the base makes it unnecessary to build the whole model, i.e. in the case of a surfaced submarine?

This is not an idle question: I have two ideas, one of which is a spaceship with a socking great ventral fin which will NOT stand up without help, and the other is to turn one kit into a small aircraft plus a submarine, which, if they are to be displayed together, need some sort of base. I could live with any combination of answers, but I'd need to know where I stood at the planning stage.

[puddingwrestler]

The base is not part of the model, and therefore does not count towards the parts/materials limit, as long as it is kept simple. If the base goes all diorama-ish (ie: you build a space gunboat from a 1982 Ford Mustang and decided to build a launching cradle as a base) then it does count.
So: Simple plain 'make the thing stand up' sort of bases, and plain calm sea bases for waterline ships do not count against limits, dioramic bases do.
Oh, and if you want to use a kit display base such as supplied with various older models, that is also okay and does not count towards limits, it is after all not part of the model.

[kitbasher]

So let's take this idea a step or two further.....

1 - Retain the basic concept and rules pronounced to date. 
2 - Two weeks to nominate the scale.
3 - Add a price limit to cost of base kit?
4 - Two weeks to nominate base kits. 
5 - Two weeks to vote for base kit.
6 - All announce participation and build to the same base kit.
7 - No naming of subject, no in progress pics.
8 - Post pics of completed models within 24 hours AFTER deadline?

Would a 'Same Kit GB' work, I wonder?  Maybe in 2011, rather than hijack this suggestion?

[Weaver]

The base is not part of the model, and therefore does not count towards the parts/materials limit, as long as it is kept simple. If the base goes all diorama-ish (ie: you build a space gunboat from a 1982 Ford Mustang and decided to build a launching cradle as a base) then it does count.
So: Simple plain 'make the thing stand up' sort of bases, and plain calm sea bases for waterline ships do not count against limits, dioramic bases do.
Oh, and if you want to use a kit display base such as supplied with various older models, that is also okay and does not count towards limits, it is after all not part of the model.

Common-sense answers and perfectly workable - cheers!