the queen cunard wanted in 1960

[lenny100]

After finding some infomation on project QE3 it decidet to have a go and build it
The real QE2 was project QE4

[PR19_Kit]

Nice looking ship Lenny, but how did you go about building the model? What scale is she too?

[Sauragnmon]

Looks like he's going for a standard ship bash, taking two different ships and a sledgehammer.

Looking good, Lenny, us ship whiffers have to stick together, mate!

[sequoiaranger]

...for a verandah suite on her maiden voyage when you're done!

[Mossie]

Looks good Lenny, a QE2 on a workout.  I guess from your post there were several proposed version of the Queen Elizabeth 2.  What were the differences?  'Fraid you'll need to point them out to me, I'm not that clued up on ships!

[lenny100]

the hull is from the new queen Mary 2 and the upper is from the old qe2 both airfix kits in 1/600 scale.
they are from ebay were i was after a queen Mary 2 for a project i had in mind and these two started kits cam with it as spears.
the real hull for QE3 project was longer but this will do as it look nicely proportioned to the upper works

[lenny100]

Looks good Lenny, a QE2 on a workout.  I guess from your post there were several proposed version of the Queen Elizabeth 2.  What were the differences?  'Fraid you'll need to point them out to me, I'm not that clued up on ships!

this was before the QE2 project (which started in 1965)in 1951 and was to be built on the Tyne be swan hunters, as a direct replacement for the queen Mary and the queen Elizabeth.
It was beyond the size to use the Panama canal and was to be for the north Atlantic passenger trade with limited cruising during the off session. They  were to be steam turbine driven with a possibility of nuclear engines as a refit replacing the ten oil fired boilers in a refit planed in 1980 when the ships were to be 20 years old and its out of service date were planed to be 2010.
There was also as part of the project a aircraft which was to be used to give speed crossing a jet powered princess class flying boat.
The Cunard company at the time in the late 50s was starting to feel the fist hit in its cross Atlantic traffic, and was unable to get the funding to build a class of two ships, so it went back to the drawing board and came up with a much smaller design which could use the Panama canal and so could be used for cruising the world much easier  the "QE 2"

the differences in the design between this ship and the new queens will become must easier to spot when i place the new queen and a QE2 next to her "if anybody has a airfix QE2 in the stash they don't want as they are hard to find now even on ebay" although both of these queen will be given the "Falkland treatment"

[Mossie]

Thanks for the info Lenny!

[pyro-manic]

Interesting! Looks good so far.

[lenny100]

Oooooh what-if ocean liners.

There's a book I am planning to get my hands on, "Damned by Destiny" by David L Williams and Richard Kerbrech. This contains loads of stuff on unbuilt Ocean Liner projects, including the QE3 designs. It's available as a Used Book purchase on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h__0_9?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=damned+by+destiny&sprefix=Damned+by

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,6876.0.html

Looking good so far Lenny!



Duncan

thats the book i have
its a bit dated now but has some interesting facts
i am now looking for a kit of the P/O flagship Acadia and she was met to be a half sister to Queen Mary 2, called the Queen Elizabeth but was sold half built, to fund the two new ships Queen Victoria, and the new Queen Elizabeth cruse ships.

[NARSES2]

Interesting build Lenny - do you know if the old Swan Hunters Ship Models made so the prospective owners could see what they were getting are on public display anywhere ?

[lenny100]

they were in the drawing office when i was there when i was part of the crew of the last true swan hunter ship HMS Richmond in 1994 as they went bust, but i believe most of the ship models were burnt by lads brought in the empty the offices who did not care what they were destroying, they only wanted their thirty pound the agency was paying them.

[NARSES2]

That's sad Lenny - it's part of the area's heritage. My half brother was a shipwright on the Wear and whilst doing his apprenticeship he was involved in the making of quite a few of the "architects models" and most of those disappeared when the Wear yards went.