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Ekranoplan and Aerotrain

Started by Weaver, June 18, 2009, 10:48:26 AM

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Weaver

Two Ekranoplan galleries on DRB:

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2009/06/ekranoplans-showcase-part-2.html

Some will be familiar, but a lot of the artwork of them is knew to me.



Also, the aerotrain:



Details here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A9rotrain
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chrisonord

That aerotrain is as mad as a box of frogs. :wacko:
How much trouble and carnage could that thing cause in the wrong hands  :blink:
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Quote from: chrisonord on June 18, 2009, 11:11:29 AM
That aerotrain is as mad as a box of frogs. :wacko:
How much trouble and carnage could that thing cause in the wrong hands  :blink:
Chris.

You'd need the track in order to run it.

Jon

sequoiaranger

Clicking on a link provided a few posts below regarding ekranoplans, I came across this one. Am I the only one who thinks it resembles a giant V-173/ XF5U "Flapjack" aircraft??

I have a "Flapjack" I was going to make into a whif, MAYBE I will scale-o-rama it to a 1/350 ekranoplan like the illustration!
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Quote from: sequoiaranger on June 18, 2009, 11:37:45 AM
Clicking on a link provided a few posts below regarding ekranoplans, I came across this one. Am I the only one who thinks it resembles a giant V-173/ XF5U "Flapjack" aircraft??

I have a "Flapjack" I was going to make into a whif, MAYBE I will scale-o-rama it to a 1/350 ekranoplan like the illustration!

Looks like one of the early '70s Lippisch 'reversed-delta' concepts for a big WIG craft.

Jon

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Quote from: sequoiaranger on June 18, 2009, 11:37:45 AM
Clicking on a link provided a few posts below regarding ekranoplans, I came across this one. Am I the only one who thinks it resembles a giant V-173/ XF5U "Flapjack" aircraft??

I have a "Flapjack" I was going to make into a whif, MAYBE I will scale-o-rama it to a 1/350 ekranoplan like the illustration!

I say that is a Must.
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Quote from: Weaver on June 18, 2009, 10:48:26 AMAlso, the aerotrain:


That looks like a fairly simple whiff to me. Not that exact plan, but take an airliner fuselage and envision a company which turns them into high-speed trains. I think the fiddliest part would be building the tracks, as far as I know there's no model railway scale that is close enough to 1/144th, or any other standard aircraft scale. I might have a go at something like that.
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Quote from: The Rat on June 18, 2009, 05:51:26 PM
Quote from: Weaver on June 18, 2009, 10:48:26 AMAlso, the aerotrain:


That looks like a fairly simple whiff to me. Not that exact plan, but take an airliner fuselage and envision a company which turns them into high-speed trains. I think the fiddliest part would be building the tracks, as far as I know there's no model railway scale that is close enough to 1/144th, or any other standard aircraft scale. I might have a go at something like that.

I was going to say use Minic Motorways by Tri-ang but I've just found out it's OO scale which is 1/76.  There are smaller scale model train sets though, there's N Gauge (1/160) and Z Gauge (1/220), I remember the N Gauge from way back (60's) at the local hobby store in my old home town.
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The Rat

Quote from: kitnut617 on June 18, 2009, 07:16:07 PMI was going to say use Minic Motorways by Tri-ang but I've just found out it's OO scale which is 1/76.  There are smaller scale model train sets though, there's N Gauge (1/160) and Z Gauge (1/220), I remember the N Gauge from way back (60's) at the local hobby store in my old home town.

Hmmm... Do you think most people would notice the difference between 1/72nd and 1/76th with a MkI Eyeball? It's close enough that I would be willing to try. And those Heller Cadet Transalls are 1/220th, a bit of a wide body for tracks though.
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Quote from: The Rat on June 18, 2009, 05:51:26 PM

That looks like a fairly simple whiff to me. Not that exact plan, but take an airliner fuselage and envision a company which turns them into high-speed trains. I think the fiddliest part would be building the tracks, as far as I know there's no model railway scale that is close enough to 1/144th, or any other standard aircraft scale. I might have a go at something like that.

Model railway track wouldn't be much use: the aerotrain track was a T-section concrete monorail, optionally elevated.

More info on the Aerotrains, including pictures of the track, here: http://www.aerotrain.fr/?lang=en

Another good site here: http://aernav.free.fr/Index.html Note that the French version of the site has more content than the English version.

You can also see it in the movies: one of the test tracks was used in the film Farenheit 451.
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kitnut617

Quote from: The Rat on June 18, 2009, 07:23:15 PM
Hmmm... Do you think most people would notice the difference between 1/72nd and 1/76th with a MkI Eyeball? It's close enough that I would be willing to try. And those Heller Cadet Transalls are 1/220th, a bit of a wide body for tracks though.

Well a lot of the Airfix armour is 1/76 scale Dave.
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The Rat

Quote from: Weaver on June 18, 2009, 07:32:22 PMModel railway track wouldn't be much use: the aerotrain track was a T-section concrete monorail, optionally elevated.

That only matters if you're building an actual Aerotrain. Even that is not 'whiff' enough for me. In my warped universe old airliner fuselages have been recycled as trains, no track modifications are necessary.
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Weaver

Quote from: The Rat on June 18, 2009, 07:52:14 PM
Quote from: Weaver on June 18, 2009, 07:32:22 PMModel railway track wouldn't be much use: the aerotrain track was a T-section concrete monorail, optionally elevated.

That only matters if you're building an actual Aerotrain. Even that is not 'whiff' enough for me. In my warped universe old airliner fuselages have been recycled as trains, no track modifications are necessary.


Ah I see - one or two of the surplus jet engines mounted on the roof like that American train in the '60s(?) then?  :thumbsup:
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bluedonkey99

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Quote from: The Rat on June 18, 2009, 05:51:26 PM
Quote from: Weaver on June 18, 2009, 10:48:26 AMAlso, the aerotrain:


That looks like a fairly simple whiff to me. Not that exact plan, but take an airliner fuselage and envision a company which turns them into high-speed trains. I think the fiddliest part would be building the tracks, as far as I know there's no model railway scale that is close enough to 1/144th, or any other standard aircraft scale. I might have a go at something like that.

What about British "N" Gauge (i.e track gauge is 9mm),but it uses loco and wagons in  1/148 & 1/152 depending on wether your using "Standard British N" or "2mm Finescale"
Japanese "N" gauge (i.e track gauge is 9mm),but it uses loco and wagons in  1/150
that said there isnt too much like the loco in the pic in either scale!

ironically in european and US "N" Gauge 1/160, there are the like of

http://art-deco-rail.blogspot.com/2007/10/kruchenberg-locomotive-genius-part-1.html

http://art-deco-rail.blogspot.com/2007/10/1160-pioneer-zephyr.html