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Weapon Load Outs

Started by GTX, July 03, 2009, 02:14:03 PM

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Quote from: ChernayaAkula on May 28, 2010, 08:08:57 AM
Nowhere did I say that even with some tweaking it would have been impossible. Maybe I should have said it's physically impossible to launch the Aphids "currently, at the moment, without further mods, out-of-box, from a stock Hind, without having to specially wire it and weave the acoustic targeting cues into the Hind's gizmology, because it's not in the manual or the training syllabus, because they'd blow NATO choppers out of the sky by sheer awesomeness, because Marxist dialectic didn't envision dog-fighting helicopters at that point". That's better? ;)

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I was worried that I might have overlooked some structure issues that you might have noticed.  Now we're on the same page.  ;D
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Here's another Vietnam Phantom load I always thought was cool.  It's an F-4E of the 421 TFS, aka "Chico the Gunfighter".  This particular aircraft was tasked solely with CAS in support of Marines on the ground, and carried two SUU-23 20mm gunpods, four Mk. 20 Rockeye cluster bombs on the inner pylons and a 600-gallon drop tank on the centerline.
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Quote from: ChernayaAkula on May 27, 2010, 07:30:55 PM
Quote from: GTX on July 03, 2009, 02:14:03 PM
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Well, at the conference there was a picture of a RAAF F/A-18A+ with something similar.  In this case though it carried 6 AMRAAM + 6 ASRAAM.  Will try to find a copy of the picture.
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There you go, Greg!  :thumbsup:





Thank you - not sure if that was the original pic, but close enough :thumbsup:  Be a impressive loadout to see for real.

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Quote from: Mossie on May 28, 2010, 08:27:44 AM
I'll play!  Real stuff:

Tornado with seven ALARMs.  Not a likely load out, but I think it got approval

The one on the right actually has nine ALARMS....
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Quote from: Mossie on May 28, 2010, 08:27:44 AM
Lightning with four Matra JL-100's & four Matra 155s.  If the microcell packs in the nose (an option instead of cannon) are loaded as well that's a total of 192 rockets!

The Microcell packs wern't a replacement for the cannon, they were a replacement for the missile avionics pack, so that's 192 rockets AND two ADENs......  :blink:

Since that obviously isn't enough, I wonder if you could fit the other two ADENs ahead of the windscreen as per the F.3?  :wacko:
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Quote from: Weaver on May 29, 2010, 02:53:58 AM
Since that obviously isn't enough, I wonder if you could fit the other two ADENs ahead of the windscreen as per the F.3?  :wacko:

Why not? They did that with the F2As after all,so there must have been space for them, and an F2A was almost a structural clone of an F6.
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 29, 2010, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: Weaver on May 29, 2010, 02:53:58 AM
Since that obviously isn't enough, I wonder if you could fit the other two ADENs ahead of the windscreen as per the F.3?  :wacko:

Why not? They did that with the F2As after all,so there must have been space for them, and an F2A was almost a structural clone of an F6.

Don't know if they moved extra black boxes there on the F6 though.
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Quote from: Jschmus on May 28, 2010, 02:27:13 PM
It's an F-4E of the 421 TFS, aka "Chico the Gunfighter".  This particular aircraft was tasked solely with CAS in support of Marines on the ground, and carried two SUU-23 20mm gunpods, four Mk. 20 Rockeye cluster bombs on the inner pylons and a 600-gallon drop tank on the centerline.

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I know Loadouts
and
I know Vietnam stuff......

....but I've never seen that photo or that loadout before  :o - Thanks for posting, Jason, that's my 'fact-for-the-day' covered. Tried to find a photo of a USAF U-10 Helio Super Courier toting four AIM-7 Sparrows, but couldn't see it on Google. It's in one of Lou Drendals/Squad Sig's; Air War over Southeast Asia volumes toward the back of the book..... cannot remember which volume tho'

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IHG,

It is not one of the War in SE Asia volumes.
It is in the Squadron/signal ""Gunships, A pictorial history of SPOOKY"
by Larry Davis.

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Quote from: Weaver on May 29, 2010, 02:50:55 AM
The one on the right actually has nine ALARMS....

Sneeky buggers, hiding behind the others! :lol:

Quote from: Weaver on May 29, 2010, 02:53:58 AM
Quote from: Mossie on May 28, 2010, 08:27:44 AM
Lightning with four Matra JL-100's & four Matra 155s.  If the microcell packs in the nose (an option instead of cannon) are loaded as well that's a total of 192 rockets!

The Microcell packs wern't a replacement for the cannon, they were a replacement for the missile avionics pack, so that's 192 rockets AND two ADENs......  :blink:

Since that obviously isn't enough, I wonder if you could fit the other two ADENs ahead of the windscreen as per the F.3?  :wacko:

And they say the Lightning couldn't carry much ordnance!  That's quite a wallop for the F.53's/T.55's, shame the RAF never took up up the offer on the F.3B.  Hmm, RAF ground pounder in wraparound camo...


Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 29, 2010, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: Weaver on May 29, 2010, 02:53:58 AM
Since that obviously isn't enough, I wonder if you could fit the other two ADENs ahead of the windscreen as per the F.3?  :wacko:

Why not? They did that with the F2As after all,so there must have been space for them, and an F2A was almost a structural clone of an F6.

The thing going against it was the original reason for re-siting the cannon, they blinded the pilot.  Still, for sheer awesomeness (is that a word?) you could just get the pilot to close his eyes while strafing at treetop height...! ;D
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Quote from: JayBee on May 30, 2010, 06:45:18 AMIHG,

It is not one of the War in SE Asia volumes.
It is in the Squadron/signal ""Gunships, A pictorial history of SPOOKY"
by Larry Davis.

JimB

Note to self:
"Check your references, your memory has become unreliable"  :blink:

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