1:35 Aussie Mi-24 Hind

Started by GrubbyFingers, July 09, 2009, 06:22:25 PM

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Army of One

I have a hobbyboss 1/72 Hind which I think is the same sprue layout but obviously smaller. I wanted to do this as a RAF CSAR bird but job/injury/house move got in the way. Some of the mods I had in mind were sliding doors (Puma style) with maybe a cut out to accomodate the wing when slid back. Hoists above the doors n door guns.....miniguns off course. Some stuff inside the cabin but not to much in this scale. Western nose cannon,I love the one on the SA super Hind featured in Blood Diamond,outer wing stations Hellfire to replace soviet wing missiles,then prob a 19rd rocket pod on the next pylon on each wing then on the pylons nearest the airframe would have a fuel tank on one side n prob a large (30mm?) fixed cannon Blackhawk DAP style. As was pointed out by someone I would add steps of some sort under the doors as I would lose the ones from original doors. I have some KA50's in my stash that would be perfect escorts......looking forward to seeing ur build finished,can't wait to see ur camo scheme on it.
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Sauragnmon

Hmm, that'd be tempting to do with my own Hobby Boss 1/72 hind now that you mention it, Army.  I wasn't sure what to do with that one, or I might just get my hands on another one - the stack of weapons could be used elsewhere quite happily.
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Ian the Kiwi Herder

Brilliant, keep the pics coming.

Ian
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QuoteI have some KA50's in my stash that would be perfect escorts.....

Maybe as an AIR87 winner... :rolleyes:

Regards,

Greg
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GrubbyFingers


Cushions are attached, painted and weathered. Here we have my first ever use of photo etch. Little suckers, aren't they! It took me 2 hours to thread six seatbelts with paper. How do people do this in 1:48 scale? I was tearing my hair out at this size. Anyway, overall I'm happy with my first venture into PE and I won't hesitate to use it in the future. Which is just as well as you can't really avoid it these days.




The ceiling was assembled and painted and the roof rack for the seat mounts and the fastrope attachment points was painted. Still some painting to go on these and then they'll be dirtied up a bit.






The pic above shows cutting and scribing of the port door to enlarge it. I moved the avionics bay wall toward the nose to give me a bit more space in the cabin to fit the gun bases. This means eliminating the doors entirely, both upper and lower. I will add a blast shield on the forward edge to ease the draft a bit for the poor gunners.




This pic shows the forward edge of the door and the relationship with the moved bulkheads.



To get rid of the big hinge holes I cut off sections of rectangular styrene and glued them in place. These will be cut back and sanded smooth.


GrubbyFingers

Hi Guys.  Here's the next progress report:

Like this:



After going to all that trouble with the foil and making an impression of the APC floor, I ended up unsatisfied with the result. When it was nice and shiny, all the detail showed up really well. Once it was painted and weathered, the detail looked a lot softer. I tried making another impression on a second piece of foil, but got the same result. Probably something to do with the mirror finish of the foil accentuating the detail.



In the end I pulled off the foil and cut the ends off the APC floor and used that as the floor of the cabin as-is. I'll probably never build the APC kit anyway.



I sanded down a couple of raised bits on the APC floor.



I cut the original floor off the assembled interior and glued the APC floor in its place. It is interesting to note that the floor of the Hind cabin is almost exactly the same size as the M113 floor. I added a small angle section to each side to widen it by about half a millimetre and all was good!



Inside the painted roof I added the seat frame attachment and the fast-rope frame with loops for the ropes. I'll hang the ammo belts for the miniguns off the rear ones. The Black Hawk gunners' seats are seen in the foreground.




I added some internal framing just rear of the door to make it look a bit more like a Hind inside. The pencil line shows the extent of the rear cabin. The long range fuel tank fits snug up against the rear part of the wall, so I didn't add any framing there.



I did a dry run of the interior to see how it was all coming together. There's not going to be much room to move! You can see some bracing under the floor to strengthen the butt-join between the new and old floor. You can also see the outside edge of the angle section added to the outer edges of the new floor. You'd have some fun if you were ground crew and trying to get the ammo bins and fuel tank out!

Next I turned back to the miniguns. I added some rear sights from twisted fuse wire.



Another dry run showed up a rather serious problem: With the standard gun mounts, you can't swing the guns down below about 15 degrees;. Not much use for suppressive fire.



The solution was to cut the original arms off and build some new ones out of styrene tube that stick straight out, rather than up at an angle.



upnorth

That is some serious dingo control right there!

Great build! I'm looking forward to more. :thumbsup:
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Army of One

Patience is not one of my virtues...............more......more.....I demand more.....now!!!!!...........if this don't work then.............would you be so kind and post more pics please.........H
BODY,BODY....HEAD..!!!!

IF YER HIT, YER DEAD!!!!

Ian the Kiwi Herder

Incredible amount of work going into this..... Will seriously dominate any show/comp table anywhere.  :thumbsup:

Ian
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....it's time to tidy the workbench"

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Army of One

oh yes.........agree with above comment!!
BODY,BODY....HEAD..!!!!

IF YER HIT, YER DEAD!!!!

BlackOps

Some very nice detail work you have put into this. I love watching this kind of work in progress.  :cheers:
Jeff G.
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ChernayaAkula

Great work!  :thumbsup:

The Minigun mount "problem" is interesting. Those Hind doors sure are a lot smaller than they look. Had the chance to look at a Hind's troop compartment up close and personal last year and wondered how they want to fit eight fully equipped troops in there.  :o And to complicate things, there are mounts for personal weapons on each of the small windows. Talk about a tight fit.
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Sisko

This is one nice build, I have to say that I am glad to this progressing again!

The detail work is certainly going to set this baby apart! :thumbsup:
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GrubbyFingers

Thanks for the kind comments, guys.

Here's the next update. I've got a bit more time for modelling now so they should be a bit more frequent.




A bit more painting and glueing later and we have this. The guns are now mounted and painted, the ammo bin is painted and some fusewire plumbing has been added for power to the ammo feed and guns.




I've run the electrical supply into the avionics bay. Seems logical! A small length of insulation cover was added to the gun cable where it joins the gunmount to give the impression of a plug.




The ammo feed belt that comes with the Dragon UH-1N kit is a stunning piece of moulding. The surface detail is just superb. Trouble is that it is a stiff bit of styrene with no hope of bending in three dimensions the way a real feed belt does. I heated and bent a piece of styrene strip to see if it was a feasible proposition to do it to the kit part. The result, seen here, is a singularly uninspiring one. It looks worse in real life than it does in the photo. It would have been so much better if Dragon had supplied this piece as a flexible vinyl part. So ... what to do?




How about using metal? Worth a try. I grabbed a piece of the Modeller's Staple: Milo lid foil, and went to work with a scalpel and a rule.




Using the width of the kit part as a guide, I placed the ruler on the foil and scored the foil with the pointed tool you see in the previous photo. This is a round-ended tool, not as sharp as it looks. It creases the foil nicely, rather than piercing it and tearing it.




Still holding the ruler in place, I carefully (like you ever do anything in modelling that you don't do carefully!) folded the foil up and over on itself.




I then rolled the fold flat with a metal tube.




I then repeated the process so I ended up with three layers of foil. This approximated the thickness of the kit part.




Again, the fold was rolled flat with the metal tube.




Aluminium being as soft as it is, the resulting folded piece does not have a dead-straight edge. Therefore, you can't just run the scalpel along the ruler edge to trim it away from the sheet. t's not very clear in the photo, but what I did here was use the ruler to clamp down on the foil strip, with the edge of the ruler a bit back from the edge of the folds. I then lightly ran the scalpel along the edge of the folded strip several times until the base metal was cut through.




This was again rolled flat with the metal tube.




To add some approximation of the belt detail, I rolled a the knurled shaft of a jeweller's screwdriver over it. I used a brand new, very clean cutting mat with no lumps or bumps for this, and pressed quite hard. In fact I pressed hard enough that and indication of the ridging even appeared on the other side.




So, we end up with a strip of alloy that looks a bit like a feed belt. The beauty is that it is in alloy and is therefore quite flexible.




It was then bent with finger pressure into a shape that fits from the ammo bin to the gun.




Like this.

GTX

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