Made In China

[Mossie]

If we're lucky Trumpy might have a go, they got to the J-10 pretty early, before it was 'official' IIRC.

[Maverick]

Trumpeter do like to play to the home market as it were, so I wouldn't be surprised either if they went down the J-XX route.  Another sexy beast for them to release it seems.

Regards,

Mav

[Henry Yeh]

Then came the question as to how much we understand how well the F-35 does its job.  We know its maneuverability is better than that of a F-16...... but by how much?  Is it "insignificantly better" or "better to a new level"?

With T/W of 0.87:1 (inferior to that of AIDC F-CK-1), F-35 is NOT more maneuverable than F-16. The F-35 performs its specific missions brilliantly well when performing as part of US armed forces or US-lead international coalition, but if some fools that do not enjoy all these supports (Taiwan, Egypt, Thailand, Indonesia, to name a few) mistakenly believe F-35 could replace their F-16 in every role (including as interceptors), then I have to bowdown to LM's PR team.

[Maverick]

That's a big can of worms you're opening Henry.  There are plenty on here & in the larger community who think the F-35 is some kind of uber-fighter, whereas some take a slightly more realistic view of the type and its capabilities.

Regards,

Mav

[GTX]

With T/W of 0.87:1 (inferior to that of AIDC F-CK-1), F-35 is NOT more maneuverable than F-16. The F-35 performs its specific missions brilliantly well when performing as part of US armed forces or US-lead international coalition, but if some fools that do not enjoy all these supports (Taiwan, Egypt, Thailand, Indonesia, to name a few) mistakenly believe F-35 could replace their F-16 in every role (including as interceptors), then I have to bowdown to LM's PR team.

Go on, tell your next joke.

Greg

[Taiidantomcat]

With T/W of 0.87:1 (inferior to that of AIDC F-CK-1), F-35 is NOT more maneuverable than F-16. The F-35 performs its specific missions brilliantly well when performing as part of US armed forces or US-lead international coalition, but if some fools that do not enjoy all these supports (Taiwan, Egypt, Thailand, Indonesia, to name a few) mistakenly believe F-35 could replace their F-16 in every role (including as interceptors), then I have to bowdown to LM's PR team.

Go on, tell your next joke.

Greg

Agreed with Greg, even if that stat was true... Maneuverability isn't everything. I know that sounds like blasphemy to many of you, but its the truth.

[pyro-manic]

True, but it helps.

[dy031101]

Let's continue the F-35 debate here. 

[Henry Yeh]

To tell the truth, many (if not most) Taiwanese are cheeering for the J-20 as if this was "their" achievement. Might as well get some for ROCAF.
How much would 50 J-20 cost?
20 for air defense (with secondary strike capability).
20 for long-range interdiction (with secondary air defense & conversion training tasks).
10 for recce/SEAD.

[dy031101]

To tell the truth, many (if not most) Taiwanese are cheeering for the J-20 as if this was "their" achievement.

That is kinda crazy  

But oh well, since a successor to the F-CK-1 just isn't anywhere in sight...... 

[Henry Yeh]

New engines, in case you plan on making a 3D CG model.

[Henry Yeh]

It flies!

[GTX]

I like this view more

Regards,

Greg

[Army of One]

At last.......!!!!! Some more pictures of flying Chinese hardware....!!!

[rickshaw]

Interesting intakes.  Obviously follows on from the JF-17.  I assume the shape helps with stealth.