Made In China

[Maverick]

G'day Gang,

Thanks for that info.  Wasn't aware of the changes to the Chinese emblem.

Regards,

Mav

[rickshaw]

Too bad nearly all of China's allies are piss-poor 3rd World despots. I don't think any of them can afford this babe. We probably won't see it with foreign markings.

I would suggest that it may potentially see export to the following nations:

Pakistan
Peoples' Republic of North Korea
Myanmar

Remember, the PRC does not always expect cash in return for its goods...

[Henry Yeh]

PRC could afford to give away free J-7 and Q-5, but not this.

[Fulcrum]

Too bad nearly all of China's allies are piss-poor 3rd World despots. I don't think any of them can afford this babe. We probably won't see it with foreign markings.

I would suggest that it may potentially see export to the following nations:

Pakistan
Peoples' Republic of North Korea
Myanmar

Remember, the PRC does not always expect cash in return for its goods...

PRC could afford to give away free J-7 and Q-5, but not this.

But in whiff land, it's the thought that counts.

[Henry Yeh]

Sudanese J-20 before & after the partition? I'm partial to Sudanese desert camo. Maybe South Sudan will adopt some form of jungle camo? Iranian J-20 (to replace F-14)? What about Libya?

[Fulcrum]

Sudanese J-20 before & after the partition? I'm partial to Sudanese desert camo. Maybe South Sudan will adopt some form of jungle camo? Iranian J-20 (to replace F-14)? What about Libya?

Those are good possibilities(though for Sudan, it would be after it's 2011 partition/separation).

[Henry Yeh]

OK, here's an idea:
After Southern Sudan's separation, Juba feared armed re-conquest by the north. As usual, the US supplied such lame items as M113, UH-1, & C-130. Russia & Europe demanded cash payment upfront, so those are no-go. Then China offered official recognition, if Southern Sudan would let China have first pick on its oil. Along with the oil deal came a generous arms package at discount price. And since Northern Sudan was in the process of acquiring some advanced version of Flanker, the south requested the best there is: J-20.
Much of Southern Sudan is lush forest, so the camo scheme is either Lizard or green + gray.

[Fulcrum]

OK, here's an idea:
After Southern Sudan's separation, Juba feared armed re-conquest by the north. As usual, the US supplied such lame items as M113, UH-1, & C-130. Russia & Europe demanded cash payment upfront, so those are no-go. Then China offered official recognition, if Southern Sudan would let China have first pick on its oil. Along with the oil deal came a generous arms package at discount price. And since Northern Sudan was in the process of acquiring some advanced version of Flanker, the south requested the best there is: J-20.
Much of Southern Sudan is lush forest, so the camo scheme is either Lizard or green + gray.

That's a good idea.

[Henry Yeh]

I would love to see a green stealth fighter, but reality gets in the way. The paint used by stealth fighters needs to have at least some radar-absorbing property. Which means 3rd world customers can't just splash on some home-grown generic green paint. Unless, of course, CAC is business-minded enough to develop radar absorbent paint in different colors other than those specified by (& paid for) PLA.

Or the hell with reality, this is whiff.

[rickshaw]

At the danger of risking the Wrath of Greg:

Interesting analysis here of the J-20's capabilities in comparison with the F/A-18 and F-35.

[ChernayaAkula]

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-311210-1.html

I like this phrase from above link:
This design outperforms the F/A-18E/F and F-35 JSF in every important respect.

Wow! What an in-depth, to the point analysis - gleaned from a few grainy pics leaked to the net. 

[Sauragnmon]

Interesting to note is that it seems to also feature DSI inlets, notice the hump on the inside edge in the side view shots.  I question whether the engines are indigenous as the images of WS-10 engines had them with a fixed outer covering and flexible internal panels like the Spey's afterburner.  Looks like they've applied some of the learning from the J-10B study with DSI.

[rickshaw]

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-311210-1.html

I like this phrase from above link:
This design outperforms the F/A-18E/F and F-35 JSF in every important respect.

Wow! What an in-depth, to the point analysis - gleaned from a few grainy pics leaked to the net.  

I think you'll find that there is a lot more than just a few photos on the net about this aircraft.  Its existence has been rumoured for years and Chris Mills isn't one to over-react.  When one considers that he's talking primarily about electronic systems as a measure of performance, you might like to reconsider your conclusion about the article.

[Henry Yeh]

I concede J-20 will fly circles around F-35 (which is nothing more than a stealthified Su-17-class "terrorist buster"), but F/A-18E/F? Sorry, ain't buying it.

[rickshaw]

I concede J-20 will fly circles around F-35 (which is nothing more than a stealthified Su-17-class "terrorist buster"), but F/A-18E/F? Sorry, ain't buying it.

He isn't actually saying that, if you read it.  What he's pointing out is that the J-20 will be able to approach undetected to the point where the F/A-18 won't be able to make effective use of its primary weapons.