Ship Whiffers' Union?

[Sauragnmon]

I had the idea bouncing around, in my skull, of proposing a section for the ship boys.  Maybe as a sub-section for the Completed and In Progress section, but sometimes, it seriously feels like a real lonely side of the whif.  Might just be me, but who knows, it might have some merit, to help gather those of us who do ships, to compare notes and such on our progress.

[Thorvic]

I had the idea bouncing around, in my skull, of proposing a section for the ship boys.  Maybe as a sub-section for the Completed and In Progress section, but sometimes, it seriously feels like a real lonely side of the whif.  Might just be me, but who knows, it might have some merit, to help gather those of us who do ships, to compare notes and such on our progress.

You want Subs as well as ships ?

One to think about

[Sauragnmon]

I don't see why subs wouldn't fit in with the naval stuff.  It just feels real alone at times as a ship whiffer, buried under hundreds of aircraft builds.

[ChernayaAkula]

It might be interesting, but is there really a need for that?  Not that I don't think ships aren't interesting enough or anything like that (far from it), but I wonder whether the demand is there?

It seems that the flow of things in "Current and Finished Projects" is slow enough to be manageable. New subforums just break things down into more pieces than necessary, IMHO. Aircraft will keep the pace as before, armour will truck along a bit slower and the rest such as ships, sci-fi and cars will just trickle along. Also, I think it is great to have the whole range of whifs in just one subforum, as that allows me to look into things I normally wouldn't look (cars, for instance). If I had to go to a special subforum (even if just a click or two away), I probably wouldn't bother as it wouldn't catch my eye like it does now.

Another thing to consider is the strain numerous subforums put on the software. I don't know how the software of this board works, but over on ARC there were some serious stability issues when there were too many subforums, regardless of the number of threads in them.

Just my two cents!

[Sauragnmon]

Well, I don't know how it is on the software end, but I figured it'd be nice to have a little cubby for the ship projects - it's such a sparse subject it seems at times, that until I started seeing some of the threads, I felt like the only ship whiffer here to be honest.  So it's nice to have a little place I can look, and feel like I'm not the only madman altering the ships.

[Cliffy B]

I'd like to see a ship section if for nothing else to organize the site a little better.  And Saur, you're not the only one here!

[anthonyp]

Well, moot argument now that the subforums are open.  Populate, if you dare!!!

[Sauragnmon]

Well, you want it, you got it.  Ship Whiffers of the boards, we have our new home!

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/board,96.0.html

A place to congregate, and not feel so sparse and alone!

[cthulhu77]

Hmmm. This is the reason I stopped posting on Swanny's site...too many subforums.

I like the "current work" just fine. I like seeing what others are up to, without having to delve through fifteen different forums.

Don't understand why there is a need for specific areas. I get ideas from tank builders, plane builders, and ship builders. Most of my whatifs are ships and subs.

I think this was a mistake.

[Weaver]

Hmmm. This is the reason I stopped posting on Swanny's site...too many subforums.

I like the "current work" just fine. I like seeing what others are up to, without having to delve through fifteen different forums.

Don't understand why there is a need for specific areas. I get ideas from tank builders, plane builders, and ship builders. Most of my whatifs are ships and subs.

I think this was a mistake.

I agree - too many separate sub-forums leads to "ghetto-ization", where people with limited time only look at their narrow bit of the forum and you stop getting the cross-fertilisation of ideas.

[Thorvic]

On the otherhand active builds rapidly dissappear after a few days and are generally forgotten (till Ysi goes a hunting).

Dont forget they are only sub forums, members can continue to post in the main general forum should they wish to do so, but some members prefer some form of grouping as identify the type of build can be rather hard with the cryptic titles some members prefer.

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[seadude]

I like aircraft WHIF's just as much as the next person. But this whole website is 80-90% aircraft WHIF's.   It's good to see a bit more diversity by allowing armor, sci-fi, and ship WHIF's. I for one welcome the new forum.

[ChernayaAkula]

^ What Cthulhu77 and Weaver said!

I like aircraft WHIF's just as much as the next person. But this whole website is 80-90% aircraft WHIF's.   It's good to see a bit more diversity by allowing armor, sci-fi, and ship WHIF's. I for one welcome the new forum.

Erm, there's a bit of a misunderstanding there. Ships, tanks and so on have always been allowed. It's just that aircraft are the biggest subgroup.
If anything, separating the different fields of interest may cause the ship whiffers to actually get less exposure, as those that primarily look at aircraft may not bother to go over into ships.
As I said before, the tempo of "Current Projects" was just fine, in my humble opinion.

[Sauragnmon]

Neither seadude or I expressed the thought ships etc weren't welcome, Moritz - but proportionally, it's like playing "find the arabian guy in Utah" our subject matter winds up rather sparse, buried under the aircraft builds.  The sub-forum for ships gives a specialized gallery view for our stuff, so if I, say, go looking for ships, I can look in the forum, and realize that I'm not alone, that there's a small cadre of us that do ships.

Yes, I realize, some of the cross-fertilization is lost with the subdivision, which is, as Anthony pointed out, Optional involvement, they aren't going to shovel all the build threads into the sectional forums, and I'll likely double over my posts between my ship thread and my main build gallery thread, in the interest of the cross-fertilization, but when I look over the first, say, three pages of the current and finished forum, 90% is planes.  Nothing Wrong, per se, but it can feel a little alone at times.

[Taiidantomcat]

^ What Cthulhu77 and Weaver said!

I like aircraft WHIF's just as much as the next person. But this whole website is 80-90% aircraft WHIF's.   It's good to see a bit more diversity by allowing armor, sci-fi, and ship WHIF's. I for one welcome the new forum.

Erm, there's a bit of a misunderstanding there. Ships, tanks and so on have always been allowed. It's just that aircraft are the biggest subgroup.
If anything, separating the different fields of interest may cause the ship whiffers to actually get less exposure, as those that primarily look at aircraft may not bother to go over into ships.
As I said before, the tempo of "Current Projects" was just fine, in my humble opinion.

That is a real possibility. Someone on ARC complained and threatened to leave due to the high amount of traffic on the "in-progress forum" said his models were never seen before other builds took the front page. The only real solution is to just make sure one checks a few pages beyond the front page (sound advice for anything in life really) You never know what you may miss.

I have to admit I rarely check the TSR-2 forum here. The excellent Israeli TSR.2 went unnoticed to a lot of folks, even our most frequent contributors. On ARC the "golden age" pre WWII sub forum gets little traffic since it is a smaller group...due to the lack of anything new i think fewer people check in on it. So it becomes a self sustaining problem.

I have never felt there is anything at this forum that I could show or talk about that would not get any attention or be shunned. I've posted a little bit of everything like a lot of folks here. I think more sub forums mean more stuff "gets by me" which stinks because i don't like missing stuff on this site--its all good and sometimes there are some real jewels.