Old Small Arms Revived...... With Some Tweaks

Started by dy031101, August 20, 2009, 09:35:43 AM

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dragon

....and no one has mentioned the Star Wars "Blaster" (a super pimped out Mauser C96 ).
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The Imperial Storm Trooper's blaster rifles kind of look like Sterling SMGs with their stocks folded, right?
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DarrenP

Thats cause they were they also had an MG34 based gun. And aliens the support weapons were based on the MG42

Weaver

The Aliens Smart Guns were MG42s with motorcycle hand grips fitted onto a steadycam harness.
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Jschmus

And the pulse rifles were Thompson SMGs with an SPAS-12 mounted under the barrel to serve as a grenade launcher.
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Quote from: Jschmus on October 30, 2009, 12:55:29 PM
And the pulse rifles were Thompson SMGs with an SPAS-12 mounted under the barrel to serve as a grenade launcher.
Actually they used a Remington 870 pump shotgun with a Spas 12 shroud and slide cover cut down to fit the 870.The Spas 12's action was too large to use as the Spas is a pump/semiauto shotgun
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Quote from: dy031101 on October 28, 2009, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on October 07, 2009, 05:39:06 PM
Well the wheel-lock is an external ignition system, its just a fancy way of making sparks, so if
you have metallic cartridges why not just include your ignition system in the cartridge?

Fair enough...... but at least, is a breech-loading wheel-lock rifle possible?

Yes, and a number were made back in the 16th - 17th centuries, and they tended to be rather complex.

Army of One

Re stormtrooper weapons....I'm sure that one of the squad that tries to stop the Millenuim Falcon at Mos Eisley is carrying a Lewis gun.....
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dy031101

Following the template of Philippine-upgraded M3 SMG, I came up with this for the Thomson SMG.  ;D

The barrel now has an integral suppressor, wooden furnitures replaced with plastic ones, sight replaced with a rail mount for red-dot optics.
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gunfighter

Nice tommy gun! That could be easily done with an AEG.

dy031101

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I used to laugh at the idea of fitting a modern suppressor onto a Sten gun when I saw it on a Taiwanese magazine.

Now I suppose this could be quite clever for a military organization in a similar situation with Philippine marines, not terribly rich to begin with and then getting the short end of the stick when the inter-service rivalry rears its ugly head over foreign military aids.

Barrels with integral suppressors can improve accuracy as well?

(Actually I was inspired to make this gun by an episode of The Mentalist- "His Red Right Hand"- after a comment on media's questions by Virgil Minelli...... of course the back story of this gun is NOT about the CBI.  ;D)
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Quote from: Weaver on October 30, 2009, 06:15:08 AM
The Aliens Smart Guns were MG42s with motorcycle hand grips fitted onto a steadycam harness.

(Aliens fanboy clears his throat) Ah. The M56 Smartgun.

More than that -- most of the external parts on the M56s (as they were called) were from a Yamaha 750 motorcycle right down to the turn signal/starter assembly on the foregrip and the clutch lever as the firing handle on the after-grip. The flash-hider was part of the bike's muffler and the rear suspension became the "frame". See:


BTW, this illustration is from the most excellent Aliens: Colonial Marines Technical Manual by Lee Brimmicombe-Wood. Well worth the price if you can find it.

The M41s did not actually have a SPAS-12 shotgun fitted; due to the semi-auto/pump design of the SPAS and the length requirement, the SPAS could not be made short enough to fit under the Thompson's barrel -- instead, a cut-down Remington 870 was used instead and covered with a modified SPAS-12 heat shield and pump. BTW, the "practical" props were fully functional: the main magazine was a full Thompson piece and the shotgun held four rounds. There is a company out there on the webs that offers a kit to convert the appropriate Tokyo Marui airsoft guns to an M41 replica, complete to a working ammo counter.  It's expensve (US$200+, not including the guns needed) but dead-on accurate.
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rallymodeller

Oh yeah, and in the Tech Manual Brimicombe-Wood posits a sniper rifle based loosely on the Walther WA2000 target rifle. Supposedly (via the "classified PARGET system) a sniper can remotely control sentry gun units...

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Weaver

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Quote from: rallymodeller on November 26, 2009, 10:21:03 PM

More than that -- most of the external parts on the M56s (as they were called) were from a Yamaha 750 motorcycle right down to the turn signal/starter assembly on the foregrip and the clutch lever as the firing handle on the after-grip. The flash-hider was part of the bike's muffler and the rear suspension became the "frame".

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It's not the rear suspension that's the gun frame, it's the footrest brackets.

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EDIT: just been having a look around, and the airsoft community have done all the homework on this in order to build replicas. The frames are Kawasaki AR125 footrest brackets and the forward switchgear and grip is from a Kawasaki GPZ750.
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