Old Small Arms Revived...... With Some Tweaks

[Aircav]

 I'm betting that Swedish Mauser round would punch through armor quite nicely, with a sleek yet heavy round like that - all the mass on a small, sleek tapered round.

Also very accurate 

[apophenia]

... I've heard a lot of positive on the Grendel, didn't know it was similar length to the AK cartridge though...

Saura: Grendel is basically what you'd get if you wanted to design the 6.8mm SPC but had to start by reworking AK brass (okay ... steel  ). It fits in the AK mag but picks up some of that Swedish 6.5 accuracy Aircav mentioned.

[pyro-manic]

I found this a few years back, and just re-discovered the image on an old hard drive. I think it's pretty nifty.

[dy031101]

I recently came across a shop that offers to restore a few antique automatic/revolver handguns, which include Browning HP and its Canadian-made GP-35 copy.  I know at least the latter has provisions for a stock holster...... neat stuff.

I tend to lean a bit in favour with opinions made on the Broomhandle thread that modding the Broomhandle risk destroying the historical value of it.  What about the GP-35 (like trying to see if Lasergrip can be made to fit, or other custom jobs that one might think about for a Browning HP)?

Or would it actually be practically and morally easier to come up with a stock holster for the current-production Browning HP? 

[dragon]

I own a modern Hi-Power.  It is a Browning Hi-Power Practical (satin black slide, satin silver frame, chrome barrel, Pachmayr Rubber grips) in .40 S&W.  I would not want to put a stock on it, unless it was a folder type stock that was created for the fully automatic Beretta created for Italian anti-terror forces.  Now what I would like done to it would be making a Longslide out of it and adding a laser sight.   

[dy031101]

Well different ideas for a PDW I guess (although we both want a laser sight on it  ).

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http://www.tactical-life.com/online/products/srss-bulldog-762/

SRSS Bulldog kit to convert M14/M1A into a bullpup rifle...... allegedly adopted by Philippine military as well.

I wonder if you can put a M21 or M25 into it.

[dy031101]

http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=46111&start=0

Sounds like someone is trying to turn his trashed SMLE into a De Lisle carbine replica and included a reference to show people what he has in mind......

[dy031101]

This is not necessarily a vintage small arms...... but WTH, I was what-ifing a bullpup M25......

Supposedly devised to make a California-legal platform for M16/AR15 upper receivers.

I probably wouldn't find it asthetically outstanding...... although I figured that a Mk 12 receiver might make quite a combination. 

[jemhouston]

Looks like a cross between a Mini-14 & M-16.

[dy031101]

Some companies offer conversions of Colt 1851 Navy and its derivative designs to modern metallic cartridges.

I wonder, in terms of the so-called "Navy" models, how wide a variety of .38 Special loads (+P?  +P+?) it covers.

[dy031101]

I was told that for blackpower revolvers, lead bullets are the standard since the gun rifling isn't meant to grip the harder metals of jacketed rounds used in smokeless powder firearms.

Now I got that answer from a question motivated by early revolvers, which used seperate bullet and blackpowder load or paper cartridges...... is the above statement equally applicable to metallic blackpowder cartridges?  Or can I, for example, take the bullet of a .44 Special (a smokeless) and outfit it to a .44 Russian (a blackpowder)?

Thanks in advance.

[rickshaw]

I was told that for blackpower revolvers, lead bullets are the standard since the gun rifling isn't meant to grip the harder metals of jacketed rounds used in smokeless powder firearms.

Now I got that answer from a question motivated by early revolvers, which used seperate bullet and blackpowder load or paper cartridges...... is the above statement equally applicable to metallic blackpowder cartridges?  Or can I, for example, take the bullet of a .44 Special (a smokeless) and outfit it to a .44 Russian (a blackpowder)?

Thanks in advance.

Lead was used because it was cheap and easily malleable.  Most modern ammunition is copper-jacketed because its cheap, easily malleable and non-poisonous to handle.   Most blackpowder weapons which were muzzleloaders were smoothbore (or used tricks like the Minie' Ball to grip the rifling) because of the problems of ramming something very close fitting down a rifled barrel.  Revolvers continued to use lead ball in the early days were lead because of the first reason.   Traditionalists still use lead ball, non-traditionalists don't, they use copper-jackets bullets.

[NARSES2]

Most modern ammunition is copper-jacketed because its cheap, easily malleable and non-poisonous to handle. 

Am I the only one who finds that statement "Pythonesque" ?? 

[Aircav]

Most modern ammunition is copper-jacketed because its cheap, easily malleable and non-poisonous to handle. 

Am I the only one who finds that statement "Pythonesque" ?? 

Most modern ammunition is copper jacketed for two reasons,

1), You can only push a lead bullet up to a curtain speed and after that it starts to strip, the bullet can't spin fast enough for the twist rate and instead of it spinning the rifling acts as a cutter and leads up the barrel.
2) The Hague Convention of 1899 says you are suppose to use copper jacketed bullet on the enemy otherwise its unfair.

[NARSES2]

2) The Hague Convention of 1899 says you are suppose to use copper jacketed bullet on the enemy otherwise its unfair.

Ah, obviously Python were inspired by the Hague Convention