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Thorvic

Quote from: Sauragnmon on August 21, 2009, 12:12:43 AM
I'm with Moritz on the 16XL and YF-23.  I could hurt somebody for pulling both the Italeri and the DML ones off the lines.  Seriously! ARGH!  I'd Love to do a pair of YF-23's, one in Wizard markings, one in JASDF service.  16XL, I don't know what markings, but I'd just love to build one in general!

I wouldn't mind if Skywave/Pit-road still produced their E-4 set for Modern European Weapons.  Seriously, I would frackin LOVE that.  Not likely though. *flips the bird at DML for buying the molds and not producing E-4*  If I could get that, I can think of a few ships I'd love to upgrade with the bits to be had there.

If IHP could manage to be big enough to keep the full Cherry Tree line under production I'd be grateful.  Montana, G-3, #13 especially.  If they got turned to injection I'd be really happy (and wondering who slipped me the good drugs).

The sprue is still in the Dragon Invinciblke class and Type 42 kits Saur, there is also a chinese lot in HK doing rip off copies of the Pitroad Type 42 on ebay that has a copy of the sprue (not as sharp - but still only the price of a weapon set box)

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Thorvic

Quote from: pyro-manic on August 21, 2009, 11:37:12 AM
Quote from: McColm on August 21, 2009, 02:12:08 AM
If there was  a 1:72 scale of the YF-25.

YF-25? What are you referring to?

Airfix 1:72 TSR2. They'd make money hand over fist!
Revell 1:72 Starfury from Babylon 5.
Italeri or Dragon 1:72 YF-23

There are plenty of others, but those will do for a start.

The Airfix 1/72nd TSR2 will be re-issued in a few years, where as the others are more questionable
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upnorth

Hmmm.....

Airfix 1/72 F-86D Sabre
Airfix 1/72 Jetstream (USAF version)

Matchbox 1/72 Piston Provost

Monogram 1/72 Panavia Tornado
(impossible kit for an accurate Tornado build but the innacuracies could lend themselves to  good whiffing possibilities)
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I know they still produce it, Thorvic, I have a pair of T-42's and three more or so on the way with various plans on them, but it's the fact I have to buy the ship for ONE sprue, it makes it somewhat... expensive, redundant, and problematic.  If I could get just the weapons sprue, I might buy a few in a go, as I'd love to have a few Sea Darts, a few 909's, some Oto 5's and a few other of the fun stuff in there.
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Overkill? Nah, it's Insurance.  So are the 20" guns.

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Testors 1/72 F-19, I still have a few ideas I wanna pan out with that kit . . .
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Quote from: NARSES2 on August 22, 2009, 01:49:30 AM
Weaver Planet do a F-91-III radar equiped version



Yes, but:

a) it's resin

b) it's £29 in the Hannants sale (£43 normally  :blink:)

I'd like an injection moulded one for about a tenner please.....
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Monogram 1/48 F-20.  If somebody else has already wished it, then I second it!!! ;D

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Quote from: upnorth on August 22, 2009, 04:08:38 AM
Monogram 1/72 Panavia Tornado
(impossible kit for an accurate Tornado build but the innacuracies could lend themselves to  good whiffing possibilities)

There's two on eBay right now !!


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Was having a similar conversation with Jeff Fontaine about this a couple of weeks back. For me it would be:

Monogram 1:72 F-4C/D/J - if it was back, I'd buy about a half dozen. A great kit that (IMHO) really captured the look/feel of the short-nose Phantoms. And AFAIK the only source of the very early ALQ-67 jamming pod.

Hasegawa 1:72 F-111 series - I mentioned on the 'stash' thread that an 'F' went for £72.00 this week on eBay. If these kits went back into production I'd buy a half dozen, wait for or five years for them to become scarce again and then sell them on eBay and pay off the mortgage or put my kids through university  :o

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Quote from: Ian the Hunter-Gatherer on August 23, 2009, 07:17:39 AM
Monogram 1:72 F-4C/D/J
Hasegawa 1:72 F-111 series

Yeah, would be great to see Revell repop the Monogram Phantom. And the F-105 series, while they're at it. Those kits coupled with fantastic decal sheets as in the 1/48 repops.... :wub:

Hasegawa's supposed to come out with their F-111s again this year. Given their pricing policy, eBay may still be cheaper.  :banghead:
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I'd like the Airfix VC10, so many things in the Poffler book , so few kits about to make . If a cheap one was released in 1/72 the that would be even better,
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Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on August 23, 2009, 10:01:15 AM
Accurate Miniatures is re-boxing the Monogram F-4s.

Yes, that's right, but I'm hesitant to buy those. They issue it with a decal sheet that has been, err, "inspired" by the Fox One decal sheet. The whole story can be read HERE. No money from me for Acc Min.
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Must, then, my projects bend to the iron yoke of a mechanical system? Is my soaring spirit to be chained down to the snail's pace of matter?

McColm

I'd like to Know who sets the prices?
Some 1:72 kits are expensive as the 1:48 equivilant.
Couldn't the manufactures come up with highly detailed cockpits and internal workings that the modeller can display?
Airfix could do a "pocket money" range for beginners and novices.

The YF-25 is a concept idea as used by the Secrete Projects Forum for a replacement of the F-18. The YF-25 also features in the Transformers and as a ATF project by Rockwell.

Gary

Quote from: NARSES2 on August 22, 2009, 01:49:30 AM
Quote from: B787 on August 20, 2009, 11:25:21 PM
Does it have to be a kit? I'd prefer the prices of 40 years ago instead.

Yes but what you don't realise young man is that wages were far, far lower as well. I started work 40 years or so ago and was earning £6.50 a week (kept my first pay slip) so approx 7.30 Euro's a week ! It's all relative and you have far, far more to choose from now  ;D It's almost impossible to make a fair assesment as to the relative costs of model building (or anything else for that matter) over the years as it's moved around so much as economic crisis have come and gone. Best way is to ask yourself how long you have to work to pay for an item over time and the answers will often suprise. Even then you have to factor in your increase in wages as you progressed in your chosen employment  :banghead: - bring back Ted Heath and the "automatic" monthly pay rise I say  :thumbsup:

As I always say I'd like to be 18 again with what I now have in my brain (about women - very little  :banghead:) and with what I now have in my back pocket  ;D

Weaver Planet do a F-91-III radar equiped version




I find myself echoing the 40 years ago pricing, even relative pricing. I used to go to the Kmart with one week's allowance and snag a Matchbox, Arifix Blister pack or the mini Monogram kit plus a Testors bottle of paint or a brush. The key thing here is that while those kits may have lacked accuracy and all the qualities of the uber expensive Asian kits, they introduced more than a few generations to the joy of modeling. Currently the closest game in town are the HobbyBoss kits, some in the 6-10 dollar range in a good US hobbyshop like Spare Time. Nothing like that in my neck of the woods whatsoever and forget going to Walmart. They just don't carry that kind of stuff here. Besides, I don't give my 17 year old son 10 bucks a week for allowance so how would he afford it?
Think for moment, the molds are made and sitting idle somewhere. Simple corporate short sightedness is to blame. What is the minimum cost to repackage these older kits in a blister package or similar and get them into the mass market for young consumers and give them the taste? I know the counter argument of flooding the market will make the production of new kits, like the apparently fantastic Academy F-22, prohibitive. Honestly, I think that's a misguided notion. $100 kits like that will be out of the reach of all but the most dedicated modeler. So put the kits out there, get the youth excited in building, and their interest will fuel the health of the industry. Introduce new kits they might like, for instance vehicles and the like from video games or literature or movies at a slightly higher cost, and again, allow the market to dictate.

So for my picks... The Space 1999 Eagle and the 2001 Aurora Moonbus for me and all the wonderfully inexpensive kits from my childhood, the Matchbox, the Arifix Blister packs and the Mini-Monogram kits with pricing to match the average 8 year old's allowance for the kiddies.
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