Type 84

[Weaver]

Was that from the group of four that was listed last week? I won one of those as well - just waiting for it to arrive. What do you have planned?

I bid on all of those but they went too high. This one was on a buy-it-now and when the four exceeded it, I bought this one instead.

I've long had an idea for a Type-84 destroyer: basically a Type-82 with a bigger budget. For this I need two Sea Dart systems and a pair of slim, twin-Olympus funnels. I've already got two Type-42s and a Spruance (for it's hull). Ideally I'd like the pair of Ikara launchers from the Dragon C.F.Adams, but the kits are too dear to buy for just that, and anyway, I'm not that impressed with the mouldings, so I'll probably end up scratching them.

[Thorvic]

Was that from the group of four that was listed last week? I won one of those as well - just waiting for it to arrive. What do you have planned?

I bid on all of those but they went too high. This one was on a buy-it-now and when the four exceeded it, I bought this one instead.

I've long had an idea for a Type-84 destroyer: basically a Type-82 with a bigger budget. For this I need two Sea Dart systems and a pair of slim, twin-Olympus funnels. I've already got two Type-42s and a Spruance (for it's hull). Ideally I'd like the pair of Ikara launchers from the Dragon C.F.Adams, but the kits are too dear to buy for just that, and anyway, I'm not that impressed with the mouldings, so I'll probably end up scratching them.

Yeap i saw them the starter set versions with the paints, but decided not to bid when i noticed Weaver was asking about the kits on here (Just a shame Dragon did them as full hull as would be so much nicer to have the choice of waterline or full hull).

G

[Weaver]

Interesting. So a British Ticonderoga equivalent?

Earlier time-scale and technology: early 1970s. If the Type-82 was British Belknap, this is a British Leahy, really.

[Thorvic]

Interesting. So a British Ticonderoga equivalent?

Earlier time-scale and technology: early 1970s. If the Type-82 was British Belknap, this is a British Leahy, really.

Theres a thread on Secret projects about the Projected Type 82 developments:-

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2836.0/highlight,type+82.html

Only single Weapons however, but with the inclusion of Seaking Helicopter and Exocets.

For dual Sea Dart the Type 43 is probably the best bet with the Ikara situated amidships in place of the flight deck, move the Exocets into the same area and clear the fantail to act as landing spot for helo's.

[Thorvic]

On a side note i can scratch build hulls in 1/700 which may be better for purpose than robbing a kit, as a Sprucan hull is different in style to the UK stuff.

Cheers

Geoff

[Weaver]

Interesting. So a British Ticonderoga equivalent?

Earlier time-scale and technology: early 1970s. If the Type-82 was British Belknap, this is a British Leahy, really.

Theres a thread on Secret projects about the Projected Type 82 developments:-

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2836.0/highlight,type+82.html

Only single Weapons however, but with the inclusion of Seaking Helicopter and Exocets.

For dual Sea Dart the Type 43 is probably the best bet with the Ikara situated amidships in place of the flight deck, move the Exocets into the same area and clear the fantail to act as landing spot for helo's.

I came up with this years before I'd ever seen a Type-43, although my reaction when I did was exactly the same as yours: put Ikara in the middle! I also like the offset funnels, which make so much sense. However I then came up with a scheme which moved heavy weapons away from the centre of the radar signature (where a weapon is most likely to hit) by having sided Ikaras either side of the No.4 909 office, with the handling rooms forward of them and the No.3 909 office on top of them.

I only envisage a landing spot at most for helos and probably no main gun either. I don't buy the everything-must-have-a-gun argument. These are extremely expensive critical air-defence ships: the LAST thing they should be doing is stooging about in gun range of a hostile shore, as HMS Glamorgan demonstrated. NGS is an ideal mission for properly designed frigates, i.e. ones with good point defence.

[Weaver]

On a side note i can scratch build hulls in 1/700 which may be better for purpose than robbing a kit, as a Sprucan hull is different in style to the UK stuff.

Cheers

Geoff

The Sprucan is a dirt-cheap Mastercraft one, and I can always use the US-style bits to "not waste" the Illustrious. It doesn't look too un-British to me: the only thing it really needs is hull, rather than bow, mounted sonar, and possibly a steeper stem as a result, but I can live with that.

[Thorvic]

On a side note i can scratch build hulls in 1/700 which may be better for purpose than robbing a kit, as a Sprucan hull is different in style to the UK stuff.

Cheers

Geoff

The Sprucan is a dirt-cheap Mastercraft one, and I can always use the US-style bits to "not waste" the Illustrious. It doesn't look too un-British to me: the only thing it really needs is hull, rather than bow, mounted sonar, and possibly a steeper stem as a result, but I can live with that.

Eeeek i know the kit, and parts doner is probably the best use, thought you mighy have been using Dragon or Fujimi one