AvengerSki, TBM for SMW

kitbasher · November 01, 2009, 03:03:14 AM

Is nice, high five!
It reminds me of two real aircraft (yes, OK three if you count the real Avenger!). It's all to do with the effect the four-bladed prop plus spinner has on the overall appearance, but it is that vwey front end that reminds me a little of the Fairey Spearfish (see photo), and a real Soviet design, the name of which escapes me. I must trawl sources to try and find it!

tanktastic43 · November 01, 2009, 03:28:51 AM

Great job. Well done.

tt43.

JayBee · November 01, 2009, 03:38:33 AM

Kitbasher, I think you will find the Soviet one, is the Sukhoi Su-2.

JimB

nev · November 01, 2009, 06:14:39 AM

Comrade, is glorious improvement of decadent western design. Simples!

kitbasher · November 01, 2009, 10:57:42 AM

Quote from: JayBee on November 01, 2009, 03:38:33 AM
Kitbasher, I think you will find the Soviet one, is the Sukhoi Su-2.

Yes - that's the one!

Glenn Gilbertson · November 01, 2009, 03:55:19 PM

Imaginative concept and a very convincing model - good one!

Brian da Basher · November 01, 2009, 04:58:45 PM

Absolutely believable and totally looks the part!

Brian da Basher

redstar72 · November 02, 2009, 08:36:25 PM

A nice work! I'm glad to see another model in Soviet colors. But, nevertheless, I have some little critical notes - are they welcome?

Yes, in this particular case it's a what-if, BUT... Maybe this info would be useful for somebody's future works. There was NO two-color green/brown camo scheme in Soviet VVS during the WWII ! There were a lot of color profiles published especially in old literature, and there is plenty of models painted in this way - but this is a mistake, such a scheme never existed! The only Soviet aircrafts painted green/brown were those of British origins, remaining with their native DE/DG camo (Hurricanes, Hampdens, some P-40s, etc...) The profile by Maverick, with three-color camo, is more plausible.

Another note is that in Soviet service, Avenger would be used from the ground, and most probably from unpaved field airbases. Its little tailwheel seems to be unsuitable for this duty. It would be much more practical to replace it with a bigger one.

Excepting this - I like it!
Best regards,
Alexander.

pyro-manic · November 03, 2009, 03:04:12 AM

Good stuff, Jim! A great result.

JayBee · November 03, 2009, 03:07:19 AM

Redstar72,

I used the scheme from the Academy Il-2 (and the transfers and bombs).

JimB

Army of One · November 03, 2009, 04:06:47 AM

Great stuff,lovely build with subtle changes....certainly looks the part

redstar72 · November 03, 2009, 12:12:53 PM

Quote from: JayBee on November 03, 2009, 03:07:19 AM
Redstar72,

I used the scheme from the Academy Il-2 (and the transfers and bombs).

JimB

OK Jim, the camo is not your mistake. Your mistake was to believe into these decadent "Academicians"

... Their scheme is wrong, Il-2 weren't painted in this way, as any other Soviet aircraft weren't. In early-WWII era Il-2 were painted in two-color green / black scheme, and in 1943 two versions of three-color scheme were introduced (see pictures below).

Yes, of course, your model is a what-if. Maybe this particular Avenger arrived from England

...

JayBee · November 03, 2009, 12:54:24 PM

Thanks for that RS72/Alexander,
I do try to make my WhIfs as correct/believable as possible.(Well some of them.

)
Now a question, and I know that OGL has already done a model of this, but I want to do it right.

Think "Cab Rank Sturmovick".
If the Russians had sent aircraft to support the Normandy landings, and subsequent operations, what camouflage pattern/colours do you think they would have worn?

JimB

redstar72 · November 03, 2009, 01:08:06 PM

It would be an Il-2? Would it be in Soviet markings, or any other Allies nation?
I think you can use one of these two schemes, with Invasion Stripes added.

And who is OGL?

Tojo633 · November 03, 2009, 01:17:36 PM

RS72

OGL - Our Glorious Leader

Sandy