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What would you say this started life as??

Started by chrisonord, November 11, 2009, 12:10:54 PM

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chrisonord

I was watching UFO the other day, and on this episode was a transport aircraft I had not seen before, looking at it it looks a lot like a Yak-130 trainer, shape wise, but....this was the early seventies so what else could it be. If you look at the pictures, you will see that there is what looks like a painted over large canopy, anyhow have a look and see what you think.
Cheers,
Chris.





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jcf

There is a photo of the model under construction on page 87 of the future was fab: The Art of Mike Trim
and it appears to be at least three feet long.

Many of the models in the later Anderson productions were unique designs by Meddings and/or Trim and the
basic forms were fibreglass shells or shaped from wood. Model parts were used as detailing 'gubbins', but
didn't form the basic structure.

Jon

Cobra

guys, they showed a Comparison pic of the SHADO Mobile Transporter & the C-17!!!!!!!!! it was on www.cloudster.com!!!!!!!!!!! check it out!!!!!! Dan

puddingwrestler

The SHADO transport was a scratch build; I've also seen in construction shots in a book in my youth. (21st century visions by Derek Meddings).
Most of the stuff used in UFO was scratch built, which may explain why it didn't feature a crazy new plane per week like Thunderbirds, Stingray and Captain Scarlett so often did.
As to the inspirations etc; the wings do remind me of the B-58, a perenial favorite of GA designs.
There are no good kits, bad kits or grail kits, just kitbash fodder.

Weaver

It looks like it has DC-8 engines grafted to Hustler wings.
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jcf

#6
The trailing edge of the B-58's delta wing sweeps forward, on Trim's SHADO transport design the trailing edge is swept aft,
and it also appears that it may have a kinked leading edge. (Edit: or not, kink appears to be a trick of lighting in the screen captures.)

http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/UFO_ShadoCargoPlane/UFO_Question_of_Priorities_116.jpg
http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/UFO_ShadoCargoPlane/Man_Who_Came_Back_213.jpg

From reading the Trim book it is clear that while influenced by existing technology, he also has a very original design sense
and aesthetic.


ysi_maniac

Will die without understanding this world.

chrisonord

I need one of those in 1/72nd scale, no.. I do really ;D
Chris.
The dogs philosophy on life.
If you cant eat it hump it or fight it,
Pee on it and walk away!!

Weaver

#9
Whilst I accept that it's an original design rather than a kitbash, you could still do something very like it using B-58 wings and DC-8 engines. The fuselage from any large transport would do, and you could then make the sleek nose by grafting bits of fighter fuselages onto it.

If you wanted to save a bit of dosh ('cos this is starting to sound like an expensive kitbash), you could turbofan-ize the original B-58 engines by adding oversize fans to the front of them.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

puddingwrestler

Lookin at the pics and thinking sideways, I reckon you might be able to sue the fuselage of a F-104 starfighter and scale-o-rama it, say by using a 48th F-104 and 72 B-58 wings. You'd need to change the rear end of the starfighter fuselage for the loading ramp etc, but I think the nose and general shape would work. You could add some bulges along the bottom from spare drop tanks or something.
There are no good kits, bad kits or grail kits, just kitbash fodder.

jcf

Seeing as its so slab-sided, why not just use a block of wood or foam to form the basic shape?
Sans the cockpit area which could be made by using a large drop tank half, ditto the
lower side bulges.