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Started by sideshowbob9, January 12, 2010, 07:16:55 AM

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sideshowbob9

Hi everybody. I was going through my stash list and there were a few models I have no idea what to do with. After a bit of brainstorming, I've been able to come up with an idea for some but a few have me stumped. Does anybody have any suggestions? The models are as follows:

CAC CA-14 Boomerang
Dassault Mirage IIIB x 3
Fiat G.50
Kawasaki Ki-61
Messerschmitt Me-262B
Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-9 x 2
Yakovlev Yak-15

The Boomerang was going to become a Sea Boomerang for the RAN but I'm going off the idea. The Fiat G.50 is definately going to have a Bristol Perseus engine and I'm leaning towards Swedish with Skis but if anyone has a better idea, please let me know.

The others are all fair game.  ;D

Thanks.

Edit: I should probably mention the Mirages are sans wings  :wacko:

elmayerle

Well, I'd say that the Ki-61 is an obvious candidate for Italian markings.  The Me-262B could be combined with one of the MiG-9's to do a four-engined night/all-weather interceptor or with the Yak-15 as a three-engined one (note, updating to a nose-gear equipped Yak-17 might help) with markings of your choice in any case.
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pyro-manic

The U-2 was based on adding long high aspect ratio wings to a F-104 fuselage, so what about doing similar to a Mirage?
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Give the Boomerang an inline engine by using the nose of a cheap donor P-40, the Aussie equivalent of the Hawk to Kittyhawk transition.

Give the G.50 an inline engine by using the nose of the Ki.61.

Graft the engine pods from the 262 into/under the nose of the Ki.61 to make a Japanese MiG-9/Yak-15 equivalent.

Clean up the engine mountings on the 262 wings and put them on the MiG-9.

Give one of the Mirages the wings and tailplanes from a cheap donor F-5, to make a sort of "French Starfighter".

Give another of the Mirages the wings and tailplanes from a cheap donor MiG-21.


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philp

Someone here did a profile of a Tony in early South Vietnamese markings (the roundel).

you could use the Mirage fuselages to make a looong rocket or missile using the 3 tails as tail fins (too bad you don't have 4).

The Me-262B would look good in Israeli markings (2 seat S.92).

I like the RAN Boomerang or maybe a Kiwi version.
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Jschmus

You could build a twin-fuselage craft out of the MiG-9s.
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sideshowbob9

QuoteSomeone here did a profile of a Tony in early South Vietnamese markings (the roundel).

Glanini's profiles of the Ki-61 here: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,6929.570.html are definately front-runners, especially the Thai one.  :wub:

QuoteGraft the engine pods from the 262 into/under the nose of the Ki.61 to make a Japanese MiG-9/Yak-15 equivalent.

Having said that, the above definately has merit. If I bought any Mig-21s though, the Mirages would be the last to see the wings as I have a thing for "delta-risation" at the moment!

QuoteThe U-2 was based on adding long high aspect ratio wings to a F-104 fuselage, so what about doing similar to a Mirage?

I've just recently done that to a Clunk, with the U-2 getting the Clunk wings to become a late Vietnam A-9 (L-1400-2-ish). Does that count?  ;D

Thanks for the ideas guys.





Mossie

Take one of the MiG-9's, chop it's tail off.  Chop the engines out of the other MiG-9, put them above & behind on the other kit.  Add some tail booms from a Vampire, Venom, J-21 or Flitzer kit for a four engined mini-monster.

Quote from: elmayerle on January 12, 2010, 09:09:04 AM
Well, I'd say that the Ki-61 is an obvious candidate for Italian markings.

You could also put the G.50 in Japanese markings, it'd look the part as an early IJA aircraft, especilly with a black painted cowling.
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dy031101

Me-109TL treatment for the Ki-61?

Two Mirages zwillinged together with scratch-built wings (tailed swept wings or tailless delta wings)?
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QuoteYou could also put the G.50 in Japanese markings, it'd look the part as an early IJA aircraft, especilly with a black painted cowling.

Sold! They did buy BR.20s, so why not?

QuoteTwo Mirages zwillinged.....

That sounded dirty.  ;D


upnorth

I'd be inclined to use the Yak-15 as the basis for a turboprop fighter.

Stick a propeller with a big enough spinner to cover the engine intake onto it.

The exhaust would need some adjusting in position as, on the real world Yak-15, the hot exhaust gasses destroyed the rubber tail wheels and required the aircraft to be fitted with metal tail wheels. If your model is 1/72, Quickboost have a set of exhausts for Trumpeter's Westland Wyvern that could help you remedy the problem.

You could give the Soviets their own answer to the various British and American turboprop fighters of that era.

If you want to take your Yak in that direction, I might have a set of the Quickboost Wyvern exhausts in my stash you can have. I'll take a look to be sure.
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CAC CA-14 Boomerang - I had an idea for a nautical Boomerang, but then sold the kit off. Applying the idea to something else, so would like to see your take on the idea.
Dassault Mirage IIIB x 3 - NATO countries that bought the F-104 (but not Belgium because they bought Mirage 5s)?
Fiat G.50 - Japanese - yes!
Kawasaki Ki-61 - bubble canopy, 4-engined prop - see how much it'll look like a P-51D and apply special ident markings?
Messerschmitt Me-262B - stay with it and built something real world.
Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-9 x 2 - two seat trainer versionm for one, rob the other for the Yak-15 suggestion below?
Yakovlev Yak-15 - twin-engine version, same general nose configuration but perhaps a little linger for a nosewheel?  Maybe adapt and graft a Mig-9 nose with 2 jets behind it?
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sideshowbob9

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Thanks for the suggestions guys. The state of play at the mo is:

CAC CA-14 Boomerang - Sea-rang it is.

Dassault Mirage IIIB x 3 - Leaning towards Zwilinginginging one pair and converting the third into a Dassault Cavalier (Alpha Jet alternative).

Fiat G.50 - IJA.

Kawasaki Ki-61 - Leaning toward Yak-15-ifying it with the Me-262 engine(s).

Messerschmitt Me-262B - Engine-less? Nick what's left and cut up the fuse. to make intakes for other projects unless something else crops up.
Edit: Maybe bash it into someting reminiscent of an Aerfer Sagittario?

Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-9 x 2 - Both already built (just looked in the box). In need of a scheme. One is a -9U.

Yakovlev Yak-15 - I got this relatively recently and want to built it as is and make it subtly WHIFFY. Maybe North Korea?

upnorth

Quote from: sideshowbob9 on January 17, 2010, 09:22:40 AM

Yakovlev Yak-15 - I got this relatively recently and want to built it as is and make it subtly WHIFFY. Maybe North Korea?

I don't think that would be a WHIFF actually. I think North Korea used both the Yak-15 and Yak-17
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Quote from: upnorth on January 17, 2010, 09:44:18 AM
Quote from: sideshowbob9 on January 17, 2010, 09:22:40 AM
Yakovlev Yak-15 - I got this relatively recently and want to built it as is and make it subtly WHIFFY. Maybe North Korea?
I don't think that would be a WHIFF actually. I think North Korea used both the Yak-15 and Yak-17

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If you want to take your Yak in that direction, I might have a set of the Quickboost Wyvern exhausts in my stash you can have. I'll take a look to be sure.

Forgot to reply to this. Thank you for the offer. While I don't want to take my yak in that direction (yaks are stubborn creatures), that would be great for another project of mine.

The Petlyakov Pe-10bis 'Fondle' will essentially be an A-1 fuse (one I made about 10-15 years ago and has subsequently been canabalised) married to a MiG-17's wings with a CF-100 radome mounted where the R-3350 should be, the gap below it creating a chin intake. Wyvern exhausts would be perfect for it so thank you for the idea even if you don't have a set available.