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CH-47 Chinook

Started by Mike Wren, December 06, 2004, 04:43:39 AM

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Mike Wren

I've had a USMC CH-47N planed for ages, will probably do it in 2 tone low viz greys. Was pondering whether to use the larger fuel tanks from the special forces versions along with a refuelling probe

On the other hand I've got a couple of RAF Stallions planned, one HC.1 (CH-53K) in grey/green Falklands colours and another upgraded HC.2 (3 engined CH-53E equivalent) in overall green  ;)

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Been thinking about a Japanese ASW Chinook  ;)  :D  :D  
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Mine will be highly modified anyway, into a 350th scale boat. It'll have a new island, and probably a ski jump with a single cat, or maybe two.

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All this talk about Sea Chinooks has made me think of various uses...

Inevitable RH-47 minesweeper

SH-47 long-range ASW platform, with stub wings for Harpoon?

EH-47 AEW platform for smaller carriers (like Sea Control Ship) with Nimrod AEW.3 type radomes fore and aft, or one big Sea King AEW-style radome as a retractable underfuselage unit?

CH-47J COD bird -- like SH-47 but with tanks on stub wing?

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definately a million uses for a Chinook !

Your Sea Thing type, how about some kind of radome that comes out the back door and hangs there ? Now that would be cool !

There's a CDN SAR bird somewhere on the net, can't remember where, painted exactly like a Labrador, but it just doesn't look right.........
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QuoteThere's a CDN SAR bird somewhere on the net, can't remember where, painted exactly like a Labrador, but it just doesn't look right.........
In the WAPJ with the article on Chinook variants, there is a photo of a concept model of the Chinook in canuckian SAR colours as proposed by Boeing - looks pretty cool  :wub:  
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In the WAPJ with the article on Chinook variants, there is a photo of a concept model of the Chinook in canuckian SAR colours as proposed by Boeing - looks pretty cool  :wub:
I see yer finally getting the picture, Nevster.......ANYTHING in leafy roundels looks cool ! Mind you, save for Alvis' underwear !
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Hi folks,

How about some Chinook whiff ideas.  To give some inspiration, here are some real world winged chooks:





Now I know there was an Attack Chook (ACH-47):







And there was apparently a proposal for a Sea Chook (ASW bird).

What other possibilities?

Regards,

Greg
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I don't think there was ever a passenger bird,like the Boeing 107 Sea Knight used over New York.I could see say Pan Am in NY or a Japanese communter line getting some good usage out of the larger Chinook.BA did use a couple Civie Chinooks for awhile for oil rig flights,but I think thats as close as a passenger Chinook got.

Maybe an airborne command post.The Russians used their Mi-6s,Mi-8s and Mi-26s as such,and the CH-47 has a good amount of floor space.Also along those lines,you could do a EW/ECM jammer type,something like say either a Guardrail or Quick Fix.
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The commercial version of the Chinook could seat up to 44 passengers, but as you mention, there was never a dedicated passenger variant.  Commercial Chinooks retained the loading ramp & were short on frills for the civillian market, although a few Roughnecks on the way out to a rig in the North Sea weren't going to worry too much!!!
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How about a Chinook tilt rotor or Gyrodyne (Fairey Rotodyne)?  Remove the masts, shorten the panniers & add conventional flying surfaces for a fixed wing aircraft?

Greg, I just get  :redx:  for the ACH-47.
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How about a Marine One version?  A VH-47?  Given all the gear the USN is insisting on adding to the VH-71, perhaps VH-47 might sense after all.  *G* I'm getting the gear together to do a VH-53E.
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I have this one relegated to the "what-to-do-with-it" heap



It has wings and stabilators from an old seahawk

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What if we combine the winged chook and the attack chook and maybe redo the cockpit into a tandem style ala cobra/Hind.  We also use the rear to carry a small assault squad - the resulting ACH-47B? could be an early precusor to the HH-47:



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Greg
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Real world developments:

QuotePiasecki reveals new look for hot-rod Chinook
By Stephen Trimble

Piasecki Aircraft has revealed new images of a Boeing CH-47 Chinook transport helicopter augmented by ducted-fan thrusters, which can be vectored to boost maximum speed to 250kt (462km/h) or lift capacity by 30%.

The conceptual drawings, which reveal twin thrusters mounted on either side of the Chinook's mid-fuselage, were made public in a patent application published in mid-January. According to Piasecki's description, the vectored thrust is controlled by differential pitch propellers and horizontal vains.

The patent filing is an extension of Piasecki's ongoing experiments with the X-49A vectored thrust ducted propeller system, a Sikorsky UH-60 modified with a tail-mounted ducted fan and wings.

So far, the US Army has not created a requirement to augment the speed or lift capability of its helicopter fleet. However, Boeing acknowledges making a "minor" investment in the Piasecki project. In an interview, Phil Dunford, vice-president and general manager for Boeing Rotorcraft, said the compound rotor concept has potential.

"There is a potential for the compound to be a capability that extends the current configuration of our aircraft into something quicker, with modifications to our aircraft that aren't as big maybe as a brand new programme," Dunford said.




Regards,

Greg
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Mossie

Found this on Secret Projects:


More Beoing Vertol (& others) flying cranes in this thread:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,565.0.html
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