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TallEng

#180
February 25, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
Now there's a thing, what happened to Desert camouflage?
The big transports kept it until fairly late. But the fighters lost it when camouflage returned in place of high speed silver.
Why was that? As far as I know the Aden wing Hunters and other Aircraft based in the Middle East remained in the area except perhaps for major servicing? The Saudi's even trailed desert camouflage on a couple of their Lightnings late on in its career with them. One in all over Middle Stone and Dark earth, the other with 'Sky' underneath.
Of course there's always the 'late' Middle East Desert scheme of Dark Earth over Light Slate Grey with Medium Sea grey undersides, which also didn't hang around long.
What about the PR dedicated Lightnings? PRU Blue all over? All over Sky for the early/late morning/evening over flights?
Or rather everything in the Dark green/Dark Sea Grey silver undersides as per real life?
So many possible answers :thumbsup:  :wacko:
But yes if I do a Lightning FGA.3 then desert camouflage is a distinct possibility  ;)
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McColm

#181
February 25, 2017, 10:25:43 AM
Maybe it's because during a war , plane spotting is a priority using the Mk1 eyeball, but once air superiority has been established being shot down by friendly forces reverts back to more flamboyant colours been worn.

NARSES2

#182
February 26, 2017, 04:42:52 AM
Quote from: TallEng on February 25, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
Now there's a thing, what happened to Desert camouflage?
The big transports kept it until fairly late. But the fighters lost it when camouflage returned in place of high speed silver.
Why was that?


Probably purely down to money. Even if aircraft were assigned to the Middle East there was no guarantee they would stay out there and thus would have to be repainted at a fair old cost for use elsewhere. Also the withdrawal from Empire was going on and everyone knew it would just speed up even if they wouldn't admit it even to themselves.

I've always assumed that cost, together with the relatively small numbers of aircraft the RAF operates with, is one of the reasons why we don't see that many British aircraft in colourful display/commemorative schemes.

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Weaver

#183
March 12, 2017, 09:42:50 AM
Lovely pic of some colourful Lightnings:



Can't remember who posted it to Twitter, but it was probably Lightning Of The Day (@lightningotd ) who's well worth following.
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PR19_Kit

#184
March 12, 2017, 10:39:51 AM
Superb stuff. It looks like it's impossible to paint a Lightning in a scheme that doesn't suit it.  ;D

All F3s apart from the F2 at the rear, didn't they have a spare F3 to make a full set?
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NARSES2

#185
March 13, 2017, 07:05:34 AM
Lovely photograph
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rickshaw

#186
March 13, 2017, 07:45:27 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 13, 2017, 07:05:34 AM
Lovely photograph

I think it is a Computer Generated painting, Chris, not a photo.
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Knightflyer

#187
March 13, 2017, 08:16:35 AM Last Edit: March 13, 2017, 08:20:21 AM by Knightflyer
Quote from: rickshaw on March 13, 2017, 07:45:27 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 13, 2017, 07:05:34 AM
Lovely photograph

I think it is a Computer Generated painting, Chris, not a photo.

I thought it was just a recolourisation of a quite a well known photo? I thought this one, but look at the differences



So a later shot to show an 'updated' fleet, and then recolourised?

Oh to be whiffing again :-(

PR19_Kit

#188
March 13, 2017, 08:20:54 AM
The front one's an F2 in the lower pic too.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
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jcf

#189
March 13, 2017, 09:14:47 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on March 13, 2017, 07:45:27 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 13, 2017, 07:05:34 AM
Lovely photograph

I think it is a Computer Generated painting, Chris, not a photo.

Nope, just an over edited photo. Somebody pushed the saturation up, futzed with the levels and
over used sharpen/unsharp mask filters.

Martin H

#190
March 13, 2017, 11:14:40 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 13, 2017, 08:20:54 AM
The front one's an F2 in the lower pic too.

Kit, If you meant the 5 sqd bird, she's an F-3.
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Gondor

#191
March 13, 2017, 11:42:12 AM
Quote from: Knightflyer on March 13, 2017, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on March 13, 2017, 07:45:27 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 13, 2017, 07:05:34 AM
Lovely photograph

I think it is a Computer Generated painting, Chris, not a photo.

I thought it was just a recolourisation of a quite a well known photo? I thought this one, but look at the differences



So a later shot to show an 'updated' fleet, and then recolourised?

He means in this one OGL.

Front and rear aircraft are F2's, 19 and 92 Squadrons.

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Weaver

#192
March 13, 2017, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on March 13, 2017, 09:14:47 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on March 13, 2017, 07:45:27 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 13, 2017, 07:05:34 AM
Lovely photograph

I think it is a Computer Generated painting, Chris, not a photo.

Nope, just an over edited photo. Somebody pushed the saturation up, futzed with the levels and
over used sharpen/unsharp mask filters.

To illustrate Jon's point, this took me just over a minute with a free photo-editor programme:



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Captain Canada

#193
March 13, 2017, 12:39:59 PM
That is a great shot ! But somat does look a bit off tho....they're all so shiny  :thumbsup:
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Knightflyer

#194
March 13, 2017, 12:40:59 PM
It certainly made a difference  ;D

Is it just me, or do the 56 squadron check's (chequers / checkers ?) on the tail look 'false' in both the altered and unaltered shots(and I know there not, but I think it's to do with the straight edges / 90 degree angles?)

As for the first one you posted Weaver, were they perhaps trying for an 'oil painting' effect?
Oh to be whiffing again :-(
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