IAF Me 262

[PACOPEPE]

Avia S 92. Ezer Weizman, commander of 101 Squadron of IAF. Hertzeliya, Israel; summer of 1948.

[GTX]

Well done - I think the wingtip missiles might be a tad pre-mature for '48.

Regards,

Greg

[pyro-manic]

Sharp! I like the tail stripes.

[Swanny]

Isn't it ironic how these pieces of technology end up where they do? This as a whiff is great but specifically things like the S-199 Mule (Dagger). Nazi developed weapons protecting the Jewish state   Not trying to make any kind of political statement here, just an observation.

[PACOPEPE]

Isn't it ironic how these pieces of technology end up where they do? This as a whiff is great but specifically things like the S-199 Mule (Dagger). Nazi developed weapons protecting the Jewish state   Not trying to make any kind of political statement here, just an observation.

Dear Swanny:
There isn´t any political statement here. Exactly, it´s just a whiff, like the S-199, like you´ve said yourself. Israelis bought them to czechoslovak. Do you think perhaps that israelis unaware of their german origin?. Do you believe that israelis could have bought S 92, had not done?.
How many aircrafts/projects made in a country, were used/developed by his enemies?, and of these, how many appear on this forum?.

All the best
Fran

[Green Dragon]

Nice one Fran, very feasible that the Israeli's could buy S.92's if the Czech's kept making them but they moved onto license building more advanced Yaks and MiGs. Yugoslavia was interested in buying some S.92's IIRC.
I was thinking of doing an Israeli one but with Ruhrstahl X-4 missiles.

Paul Harrison

[Swanny]

I am certain the Israelis were very aware of their origins but were none the less very happy to have any weapon that could be used to defend themselves. I just find it ironic that something developed and used by a regime that oppressed the Jews was ultimately used to save the newborn Jewish nation. I modeled the S-199 a few years ago and think that your build is a very plausible build. If these jets had been available to the arms buyers of the day they probably would have jumped at the opportunity to pick up a couple dozen. I know that when they acquired the S-199s they were also trying to get hold of some US P-51s.

[philp]

Thought my backstory was pretty plausible but knew I should have added the striped rudder.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal4/3101-3200/Gal3110_S-92_Peterson/00.shtm

[PACOPEPE]

Thought my backstory was pretty plausible but knew I should have added the striped rudder.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal4/3101-3200/Gal3110_S-92_Peterson/00.shtm

Very interesting your backstory. Is it real?; when do you obtained it?.

I like very much the idea. Why did you choose overall grey for your IAF Avia S 92?.

I´ve seen an IAF P-51 on your gallery of pics (very good collection). It has the same scheme than my kit.

Regards
Fran

[Mossie]

Very nice!   There were some rumours that Israel did acquire Me-262's, or at least tried to, but they probably were just that.  Like Swanny says, I think the Israelis were very aware of the origin of their Avia S.199's & would have been of the Me.262/Avia S.92.  They needed equipment quickly & weren't too worried about were it came from (or how they got it).

[philp]

Thought my backstory was pretty plausible but knew I should have added the striped rudder.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal4/3101-3200/Gal3110_S-92_Peterson/00.shtm

Very interesting your backstory. Is it real?; when do you obtained it?.

I like very much the idea. Why did you choose overall grey for your IAF Avia S 92?.

I´ve seen an IAF P-51 on your gallery of pics (very good collection). It has the same scheme than my kit.

Regards
Fran

Fran,
Backstory is all my creation, based on how they acquired the S.199s.  The idea just popped into my head one day and I just had to do it.  This was my first "true" whiff and I still get the odd email asking where I got my info.

I picked the grey scheme that the S.199s flew in.  It is also the scheme that the Czechs painted their S.92s.  I had planned to add th striped rudder of the 1st Fighter Squadron but had a contest deadline and never got back to it.  Figured the Israeli's were too busy just trying to get things flying to worry about the camo.  The P-51 camo you mention was used on their aircraft in the 1956 conflict.  They weren't able to obtain any Mustangs in '47-'48.  I have a bunch of books on the Israeli Armed Forces as they are one of my favorites for Air and Armor.

[PACOPEPE]

Phil;

Congratulations for your imagination, but for being a knowledgeable modeler too. For this, i imagine that you´ll like the following pics of the pages i´ve of the decals of first IAF aricraft (Sky decals).

There were IAF P-51 in 1948!.


Fran

[philp]

Fran,
Looks like you learn something everyday.  None of the books I have mention the earlier Mustangs from the US and Sweden.  Course, they are a few years old.  So I did a little Googling and found all kinds of stuff on their use in '48.

Course, they were all in NMF