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Sikorsky S-61 Sea King

Started by Aircav, June 03, 2010, 04:44:19 AM

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Found this picture while looking in some old Flight International magazines

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Jschmus

I've never seen that one before.  It looks like a hybrid of the Sea King and the longer-hulled land variants.
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Predecessor of the S-61R series, the clamshell doors were abandoned in favor of the ramp used on the R which
enabled retention of amphibious capability. The only purely land-based member of the S-61 family was the S-61L
airliner.

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1963/1963%20-%201800.html

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1963/1963%20-%201805.html

apophenia

Jon: any idea why the Weser S-61D has its engines raised (with a noticeable gap between cowling & fuselage)?

jcf

I don't think the engines are raised, they appear to be at roughly the same height as a standard 61.
If they are raised, then they raised the transmission as well, but the relation of engine to transmission doghouse
looks normal to me. It appears that they lowered the fuselage in relation to the engines and rotor drive, this would
make sense if they wanted more internal volume. The new fuselage is a pod beneath a boom carrying the engines
and rotors. The setup is kinda S-64 like, I wonder if they were considering a crane version?







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Oh, but that ETPS Sea King looks niiiiice! :wub:
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Jschmus

That S-61 also reminds me a little of Kaman's K-1125 Huskie III:

http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/kaman_1125.php

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What about a Sea King given the "Hind D" treatment (i.e. stub wings with weapons, tandem nose...)?

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Jschmus

Quote from: GTX on June 04, 2010, 02:24:46 PM
What about a Sea King given the "Hind D" treatment (i.e. stub wings with weapons, tandem nose...)?

Regards,

Greg

Then you'd get something similar to the S-67 Blackhawk.
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apophenia

Thanks Jon. That makes sense now.

Quote from: Jschmus on June 04, 2010, 02:42:14 PM
Quote from: GTX on June 04, 2010, 02:24:46 PM
What about a Sea King given the "Hind D" treatment (i.e. stub wings with weapons, tandem nose...)?

Regards,

Greg

Then you'd get something similar to the S-67 Blackhawk.

Actually, what you'd get is the original S-71, Sikorsky failed attempt to get the AAH contract. The S-71 combined SeaKing dynamics and rear fuselage with GTX's tandem nose and stub wings.

Logan Hartke

S-71 from Secret Projects.

Cheers,

Logan

famvburg


      Hmm. What little I've read on the S-71, it used S-70 / Black Hawk dynamics & rear fuselage, which is what the pics look like to me as well.

Quote from: apophenia on June 04, 2010, 02:48:24 PM
Thanks Jon. That makes sense now.

Quote from: Jschmus on June 04, 2010, 02:42:14 PM
Quote from: GTX on June 04, 2010, 02:24:46 PM
What about a Sea King given the "Hind D" treatment (i.e. stub wings with weapons, tandem nose...)?

Regards,

Greg

Then you'd get something similar to the S-67 Blackhawk.

Actually, what you'd get is the original S-71, Sikorsky failed attempt to get the AAH contract. The S-71 combined SeaKing dynamics and rear fuselage with GTX's tandem nose and stub wings.

apophenia

Quote from: famvburg on June 05, 2010, 06:49:03 AM
      Hmm. What little I've read on the S-71, it used S-70 / Black Hawk dynamics & rear fuselage...

Oops, yer right famvburg! So much for relying on memory  :banghead:  Hat, coat, ...

Bill TGH

how about going the other way...

(it started with the Hobbycraft H-21, spruced up & done in early Sea King markings from Belcher Bits)

I have a set of current Cdn Sea King markings for Gulf Patrol birds & a nearly complete Hind-D that was bound for UN markings (a la Indian air force) but now is reprimed & ready for a very nice neutral grey...

I'm thinking CRV-7 pods, spare fuel & maybe one of those uber-cool camera balls on one wing...
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How about removing the amphibious hull from the Sea King to make a, well, Land King I guess?  Something along the lines of the S-61 in the Flight archive link Jon gave above.
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