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Started by GTX, August 14, 2010, 04:12:57 PM

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jcf

Front and top views would merely serve to demonstrate how much the installation would degrade looks and performance.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :wacko: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  ;D

The Wooksta!

Quote from: Doc Yo on August 18, 2010, 02:32:06 PM
the Special Hobby hornets, I expect they're easier to find these days. and the PM Sea Furies
would be a good cheap source for the radials...

The Special Hobby Hornet is not an easy kit to build and costs twice what an original boxed Frog one will cost you.  Frog or Novo Hornets are pretty easy to find.  Besides which, the plastic is thick, ideal for conversions.

The engines in the PM Furies are pretty basic.  It's a copy of the old Frog kit, deleting all the 'working' features but retaining all the errors.
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Personally, I think a better one to use would be the Matchbox Tempest Mk.II Centaurus engine cowling, and the four blade prop.  Like what I'm using here on another Fury prototype I'm building.
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The Wooksta!

The only thing with the Matchbox Tempest is that the engine looks just too chunky and the front is a bit square, if you see what I mean.

I used some resin copies of the Matchbox cowling (mould's knacked, I'll have to redo it) when I re-engined the Mosquito but inverted them.  It looks all wrong but that's precisely why I did it.

Four blade prop?  I'm tempted to bung a Sea Fury prop on a Tempest II.
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Doc Yo

 Farrelly- What can I tell you? I have a weakness for top-heavy twins*. As for looks & performance issues, do
you really expect a man who admires the Amiot 143 to be moved by your disdain?
See your :wacko: and raise you :ph34r:

Wooksta-noted and appreciated. I don't see  many of the old Frog kits on this side of the pond, though I confess
I don't do much looking outside the annual show here in Austin. As for the cowlings, if the shape is ok, I'd still
go with the PM kit, but I'm open to suggestion.

Kitnut-I see what Wooksta is saying about the shape ( which is bit of a shocker, as I'm usually painfully
oblivious to that sort of thing ) but its certainly an option-though I'de be tempted to build a pair of
Tempest IIs, and use the cowls/spinners for the Tempest V? ( can't remember what other mark the Matchbox
kit is supposed to build ) on a Whirlwind...

* Like the P-61, the Su-8, the He 219,  and Keely Hazel.

jcf

Quote from: Doc Yo on August 19, 2010, 03:20:51 PM
Farrelly- What can I tell you? I have a weakness for top-heavy twins*. As for looks & performance issues, do
you really expect a man who admires the Amiot 143 to be moved by your disdain?
See your :wacko: and raise you :ph34r:

No problem here, I love 1930s French aircraft. 


;D ;D :wub: ;D ;D

NARSES2

That is so ugly it's beautifull  :wub:

Chris another lover of all those "odd" French aircraft
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kitnut617

Quote from: The Wooksta! on August 19, 2010, 01:30:37 AM
The only thing with the Matchbox Tempest is that the engine looks just too chunky and the front is a bit square, if you see what I mean.

A quick spin on the lathe and some sandpaper and we can fix that,  right  :thumbsup:

Quote from: The Wooksta! on August 19, 2010, 01:30:37 AM
Four blade prop?  I'm tempted to bung a Sea Fury prop on a Tempest II.

While trying to find some info on Tempests Mk.III and IV I played with the same idea
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redstar72

Quote from: The Wooksta! on August 14, 2010, 05:23:10 PM
No, it's simply lunacy.  The whole point of the Hornet was to design it around two very powerful but slim engines, using cutting edge aerodynamics to create a fast, highly manouverable aircraft. At a stroke, you've quite simply ruined it.  This is way beyond heresy.   

But there was a kind of precedent in real history. Here is MiG DIS, also known as MiG-5 or Aircraft "T". An aircraft which deserves the name of "Russian Hornet", I think:


That was 1941 version. And in 1943, it turned into this:



Of course ASh-82 wasn't as massive as Centaurus - but...
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NARSES2

Nice looking aeroplane Redstar  :thumbsup: Personally I prefer the radial version
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ChernayaAkula

Quote from: redstar72 on August 28, 2010, 10:21:03 AM
Here is MiG DIS, also known as MiG-5 or Aircraft "T". An aircraft which deserves the name of "Russian Hornet", I think:

My! What a beauty! :wub:
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Moritz


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Doc Yo

And for once, I can make a useful contribution...Three-view, from a Czech site:

http://www.umt.fme.vutbr.cz/~ruja/modely/podklady/MiG/DIS/DIS.jpg

The Wooksta!

It looks like a nightmare.  The wing spars must have weighed a ton.
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redstar72

This 3-view actually is a nightmare. Very old, very incorrect...
Here is a better one, for radial version:

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The Wooksta!

I think I've a kit of it somewhere, or at least something similar.  Valom I think.
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