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Abrams P.1 Explorer

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August 28, 2010, 08:15:27 AM Last Edit: August 28, 2010, 08:23:19 AM by TsrJoe
Abrams P.1 Explorer, the aircraft was offered to the Finnish Air Force in November 1938 later records indicate HQ. Ilmavoimat wasn't interested

Janes 1938 edition gives specifications as ... Span 36ft 8in. length 26ft 6in. height 6ft 4in. Max speed at 10,000ft 200mph, cruising speed 175mph. Landing speed with flaps 60mph. Engine one 365hp Wright Whirlwind R-975-E.1

Ref.: Finnish National Archive Service ("Kansallisarkisto")
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anthonyp

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August 28, 2010, 08:34:23 AM
 :o 

Saw the title of this thread and thought "WTF is GDLS doing with the M1 now?!"
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August 28, 2010, 09:23:30 AM
some more reference on the type from the excellent Secret projects site ...

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9601.0/highlight,abrams+explorer.html
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August 28, 2010, 12:22:13 PM


Quote from: anthonyp on August 28, 2010, 08:34:23 AM
:o 

Saw the title of this thread and thought "WTF is GDLS doing with the M1 now?!"

Well you know how General Motors developed the Hummer from the military High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV, or Humvee),,,well now stand by for the latest in tough off-road SUVs to take your family camping etc for the weekend... ;D

Anyone got a M1 kit they want to go crazy with?


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October 14, 2010, 04:22:54 PM
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dragon

#5
October 14, 2010, 05:23:26 PM
Quick question:
What precisely defines this aircraft as an "explorer"?  Supposing one wanted to turn a different airframe into an "explorer" for "explorer" functions, what would need to be modified?
I have a horribly punny idea that just might send thousands of JMNs over the edge, and for this reason I need the information.
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Weaver

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October 14, 2010, 06:56:45 PM
If you wanted to make something along those lines, you could start with the bomb-aimer's section from a WWII bomber such as the B-25 Mitchell.
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rickshaw

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October 14, 2010, 07:03:03 PM
Quote from: Weaver on October 14, 2010, 06:56:45 PM
If you wanted to make something along those lines, you could start with the bomb-aimer's section from a WWII bomber such as the B-25 Mitchell.

I'd suggest, seeing how small the cabin actually is, a scale-o-rama using a 1/144 Liberator nose...
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jcf

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October 14, 2010, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: dragon on October 14, 2010, 05:23:26 PM
Quick question:
What precisely defines this aircraft as an "explorer"?  Supposing one wanted to turn a different airframe into an "explorer" for "explorer" functions, what would need to be modified?
I have a horribly punny idea that just might send thousands of JMNs over the edge, and for this reason I need the information.


The aircraft was designed for aerial photography/surveying/mapping and the designer called it the Explorer because he wanted to.

dragon

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October 14, 2010, 07:45:48 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on October 14, 2010, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: dragon on October 14, 2010, 05:23:26 PM
Quick question:
What precisely defines this aircraft as an "explorer"?  Supposing one wanted to turn a different airframe into an "explorer" for "explorer" functions, what would need to be modified?
I have a horribly punny idea that just might send thousands of JMNs over the edge, and for this reason I need the information.


The aircraft was designed for aerial photography/surveying/mapping and the designer called it the Explorer because he wanted to.

So aerial photography/surveying/mapping....This suggests a large amount of glass and locations for cameras...I am thinking of committing sacriledge (as far as the JMNs are concerned)...You can probably guess what I am thinking of whiffing... ;D
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ysi_maniac

#10
October 15, 2010, 05:53:10 AM
What! An Abrams that is not armour? :o ;D
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October 15, 2010, 11:34:50 AM
Quote from: ysi_maniac on October 15, 2010, 05:53:10 AM
What! An Abrams that is not armour? :o ;D

You could always mix the two: give it a 120mm gun, cockpit armour and a tracked undercarriage..... :wacko:
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