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Azur Models

Started by Weaver, November 21, 2010, 03:21:11 AM

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NARSES2

Well I've got both the old Heller kit and the new Azure kit.

The Heller is typical of it's age and make. It looks like a Br 693 and it's fairly easy to put together, although there are areas where you need to take care and there is a need for PSR. Not much internals but with the thickness of the clear parts that's not a problem.

The Azure kit looks stunning on the sprues. If it's anything like their most recent releases then it will need some carefull trial fitting before committing to glue and will need a little PSR as well (although that may well be my lack of skill). The interior details look great and you will be able to see a fair bit of it if you get down on your knees and squint  ;)

The individual prop blades and some of the way the small parts are moulded in 2/3 bits is often put down to the nature of the limited moulding process. In all honesty I'm not sure that's true nowadays and it's a pia, but hey I'm just glad that the likes of MPM/SH/Azure/Sword etc are out there doing the kits of aircraft I want to build  ;D

In all honesty can you imagine the reception Azure would get in the Magazine/On-line reviews by the "experten" if they didn't include this plethora of small parts ? I've noticed one or two (and it is a very small number) of reviews lately where the reviewer seems to have forgoten that most of us are not "National competition winning" standard and has either been dismissive of a reasonable (IMHO) kit or asked the maker to go to even dafter lengths - or is it just me getting old ?
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: NARSES2 on June 30, 2011, 07:41:03 AM
In all honesty can you imagine the reception Azure would get in the Magazine/On-line reviews by the "experten" if they didn't include this plethora of small parts ? I've noticed one or two (and it is a very small number) of reviews lately where the reviewer seems to have forgoten that most of us are not "National competition winning" standard and has either been dismissive of a reasonable (IMHO) kit or asked the maker to go to even dafter lengths - or is it just me getting old ?

Indeed Chris, there's a bit too much of that at the moment. Many of us build models to our own standards, not theirs, whatever they say they are of course, and we'd much rather have the model finsihed and done in a month or so, rather than spend much of a year working on it.
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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JayBee

I will throw my h'penny worth in here and say that it was that "perfectionist" attitude that turned me off from model making for a decade.
It was finding this forum and realising that there were people (yes, we are people) out there who just enjoyed building models for the fun it gave us that brought me back in. Those whom we refer to as JMN's have there place. Yes we may regard it as a rather small, and very anally retentive place, but they are entitled to it none the less. Me, I prefer our world, it is a He11 of a lot more fun.

Thank you all for bringing me back into this world.

Jim
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frank2056

Quote from: JayBee on June 30, 2011, 02:03:48 PMMe, I prefer our world, it is a He11 of a lot more fun.

A Heinkel 11? Is that something like an asymmetric He111? Have Tophe draw one up!

Maverick

Agree totally with all the recent sentiments.  Given the size of a Br.693 in 72nd, ultra-detailing seems a bit odd, but I'm sure there would be those as Chris rightly mentioned that would bemoan the lack of it. 

I do wonder if it's complexity for complexity's sake sometimes.  This current fad of etched metal is a case in point.  When you have flat pieces of metal supposedly representing round cross section material and being lauded for the fact, one wonders where it's all actually going?

Regards,

Mav

Weaver

More Azur Exotica:

1/72nd Hispano-Nieuport NiD-52 - great for Spanish Civil War fans:



http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AZUR9772


And a CAMS 37E  - lovely flying boat for wet feet fans  ;D:



http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AZUR8672
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Maverick

Azur's Vildebeest is up for review on Modeling Madness.

http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/allies/previews/azur/fr017.htm

Regards,

Mav

chrisonord

Modelhobbies.co.uk have the 1/72nd scale Vautour in stock, the Israeli version. Sorry of rthe lack of technical detail, but it is 2.13 AM  :unsure:
Cheers,
Chris.
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NARSES2

Both the Vautours are now at Hannants as well Chris. Picked mine up at SMW - very nice  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Can now do my low-level RAF interdictor/strike type instead of Canberra.

The French may well get Canberra in the High Level role.
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chrisonord

I am thinking about getting one, but not sure what its role could be as it would have to belong to the Honduras AF or maybe Hondura navy carrying exocets or sea skuas.
Chris
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Pee on it and walk away!!

Martin H

well there is also the isreali boxing of it, as the heavy interceptor.............................
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Mossie

The late IIN had that kind of nose, but I'm not sure if that's in the kit as it's an earlier bird on the box?
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Knightflyer

Hi Everyone

Does anybody know what's happened to the Azur (Frrom)Vickers Vildebeest Mk.III in RAF markings, it's disappeared totally from Hannants? I'm almost thinking I imagined it!
Oh to be whiffing again :-(

NARSES2

Quote from: Knightflyer on October 10, 2012, 07:58:30 AM
Hi Everyone

Does anybody know what's happened to the Azur (Frrom)Vickers Vildebeest Mk.III in RAF markings, it's disappeared totally from Hannants? I'm almost thinking I imagined it!

Must have sold out, the Spanish one is still there. Can't even find it on the Czech shop site
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zenrat

BNA model world is an Australian based web shop.
This week they are having a sale of Azur kits - 15% off.
Postage will probably kill any savings for you guys up there in the Northern Hemisphere (plus the import tax nazis for the UK) but it might be worth a look give the dire state of our dollar.
Personally I regret not building 1/48 as WW2 French stuff is IMO seriously under represented in whiffworld.

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Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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