Whiffs found surfing

[Flyer]

Seen somewhere in the news yesterday something about an Australian company that plans to build a modern version of the Grumman Albatross for civilian use.

[loupgarou]

Sounds like a great idea, if you can get it past the 'NIH'-ers...

IIRC, the Shin Maywa originated from the Martin Marlin,so it would not be a total "NIH"...

[PR19_Kit]

They used the same 'long thin' hull shape on the Shin Maywa that Grumman developed with the Marlin IIRC. It has those 'slots' at the chines of the hull to divert the spray clear.

[jcf]

Oh, brother. The author of that piece has no clue about the actual open ocean capabilities of
large seaplanes, in short they're very poor as seaplanes are best suited for littoral operations
not the open ocean. Flying over the open ocean is great, landing on it and then taking off
again is very problematic. There is nothing sensible about it or the silly C-130 floatplane.

[kerick]

The thing is the ocean can be pretty calm one day and evil the next. I don't know how good the weather forecasters are at predicting the surface conditions.

[NARSES2]

The thing is the ocean can be pretty calm one day and evil the next.

Can change over a matter of hours let alone days. Even what looks like a fairly placid sea can in fact be quite a large swell when you actually land on it.

[Tophe]

Even what looks like a fairly placid sea can in fact be quite a large swell when you actually land on it.

Question to my English teachers here:
Do you say "land" for the opposite of "take-off "when this is sea and not actual land/ground?
I thought seaplanes (not amphibious ones) were not landing but ditching, no?

[NARSES2]

Even what looks like a fairly placid sea can in fact be quite a large swell when you actually land on it.

Question to my English teachers here:
Do you say "land" for the opposite of "take-off "when this is sea and not actual land/ground?
I thought seaplanes (not amphibious ones) were not landing but ditching, no?

Yes we do use the word land regardless of on what/where the subject is alighting Tophe. I'm afraid English is a very lazy language and we will quite often use a miss-leading word rather than come up with a more accurate and descriptive one or phrase which is what most of the Continental languages do, French in particular. Although then slang takes over I suppose ?

[Tophe]

Thanks, teacher!

[PR19_Kit]

'Ditching' is used when the 'landing' is somewhat involuntary and in the water. Used commonly during WWII when aircraft didn't quite make it back to the UK....

[Tophe]

OK, so: "ditching" is "catastrophic landing on water", it seems. All right.

[PR19_Kit]

Exactly.

[Tophe]

 

[zenrat]

ISTR that in one of the Convair "secret projects" books there were designs for large seaplanes that would remain stable landed on the ocean in rougher weather.  Some kind of inflatable float - like a vertical cylinder IIRC - which would be erected after touching down and before taking off.

I have both volumes of the books but can't be arsed to get up and walk to the relevant part of the stately zen manor to look this up.

[jcf]

Even what looks like a fairly placid sea can in fact be quite a large swell when you actually land on it.

Question to my English teachers here:
Do you say "land" for the opposite of "take-off "when this is sea and not actual land/ground?
I thought seaplanes (not amphibious ones) were not landing but ditching, no?

Alighting would be a more accurate term rather than landing in reference to seaplanes
touching down on water.