Heller

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sandiego89

Quote from: Pellson on December 29, 2023, 11:10:03 AMThat's.. uninteresting.. :-\

I had hoped for something more "French", like a 1:72 Breguet Sahara, or similar.

I have a soft spot for the Sahara- definitely under appreciated and under-WHIFed.  Anyone WHIFed one yet?

Heller screams French and I am a sucker for cheap, easy, kits.   
Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

NARSES2

Quote from: Spey_Phantom on December 29, 2023, 10:09:47 AM1/72:

-PZL-23 Karas (reissue, with Polish and Romanian air force decals))


Built a couple and it builds quite well. Certainly an easier build that the excellent IBG kit. So maybe one more to be pre WWII Bulgarian ?
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

DogfighterZen

They should reissue the 1/72 Gazelle... And if they release the SA-330 Puma again during 2024, i'm pretty sure it'll be cheaper than the one i just bought...  :banghead:
"Sticks and stones may break some bones but a 3.57's gonna blow your damn head off!!"

kerick

I'm surprised they have an RAF Jaguar but not the French. I hardly ever see the French version unless I'm missing something.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Pellson

Quote from: kerick on December 30, 2023, 09:30:53 AMI'm surprised they have an RAF Jaguar but not the French. I hardly ever see the French version unless I'm missing something.

Both HobbyBoss and Italeri has at least had the Jaguar A in their lineups. I also think there's a Hasegawa issue.
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

Gondor

Quote from: Pellson on December 30, 2023, 09:50:42 AM
Quote from: kerick on December 30, 2023, 09:30:53 AMI'm surprised they have an RAF Jaguar but not the French. I hardly ever see the French version unless I'm missing something.

Both HobbyBoss and Italeri has at least had the Jaguar A in their lineups. I also think there's a Hasegawa issue.

Not in 1/48

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Pellson

Quote from: Gondor on December 30, 2023, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: Pellson on December 30, 2023, 09:50:42 AM
Quote from: kerick on December 30, 2023, 09:30:53 AMI'm surprised they have an RAF Jaguar but not the French. I hardly ever see the French version unless I'm missing something.

Both HobbyBoss and Italeri has at least had the Jaguar A in their lineups. I also think there's a Hasegawa issue.

Not in 1/48

Gondor

Sorry, mate. I only ever build 1/72 and have no idea at all about the offerings in any scale but Gods own ;)
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

Beermonster58

Quote from: Pellson on December 30, 2023, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: Gondor on December 30, 2023, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: Pellson on December 30, 2023, 09:50:42 AM
Quote from: kerick on December 30, 2023, 09:30:53 AMI'm surprised they have an RAF Jaguar but not the French. I hardly ever see the French version unless I'm missing something.

Both HobbyBoss and Italeri has at least had the Jaguar A in their lineups. I also think there's a Hasegawa issue.

Not in 1/48

Gondor

Sorry, mate. I only ever build 1/72 and have no idea at all about the offerings in any scale but Gods own ;)
Then we worship the same God? ;D  :thumbsup: I am currently working my way through a selection of Heller SAAB Viggens.  Sorry to admit that NONE will appear in Swedish markings but, I DO love that "fields and meadows" scheme. I also have (finally!) three Heller SAAB Drakens.  ;D I really like the Heller range.
Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!

su27rules

Quote from: Spey_Phantom on December 29, 2023, 10:09:47 AMFirst releases for 2024 have just been announced on Heller's facebook page  :mellow:
https://www.facebook.com/heller.fr/posts/pfbid02sxWDLcJMjfXbATcJohidSbPZMbAW8KjFmCiC8t2EXi2DBryVkScqZW7KEWgDjqJzl
we have:
..............
1/43
-Porsche 928
-Ford Focus WRC'01


Great!! :wub:  :wub:  :mellow:  :mellow:

Pellson

Quote from: Beermonster58 on December 31, 2023, 03:37:33 AM
Quote from: Pellson on December 30, 2023, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: Gondor on December 30, 2023, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: Pellson on December 30, 2023, 09:50:42 AM
Quote from: kerick on December 30, 2023, 09:30:53 AMI'm surprised they have an RAF Jaguar but not the French. I hardly ever see the French version unless I'm missing something.

Both HobbyBoss and Italeri has at least had the Jaguar A in their lineups. I also think there's a Hasegawa issue.

Not in 1/48

Gondor

Sorry, mate. I only ever build 1/72 and have no idea at all about the offerings in any scale but Gods own ;)
Then we worship the same God? ;D  :thumbsup: I am currently working my way through a selection of Heller SAAB Viggens.  Sorry to admit that NONE will appear in Swedish markings but, I DO love that "fields and meadows" scheme. I also have (finally!) three Heller SAAB Drakens.  ;D I really like the Heller range.

There's no God but God..  ;)

The Heller Drakens are so-so as singleseaters, but the best game in town for twoseaters. The simplest way to enhance a Heller Draken somewhat is to fix the wing tips. look at this an compare with your outer wings. You'll see..



Do note that this is the Swedish twoseater, the Sk35C, having a short afterburner and hence a shorter tail - and no tail wheels! Your Heller kit will not feature that, but only the danish TF-35X configuration, that it btw shared with all other Drakens but the first J35A and B series that looked like above. None of them ever flew outside the RSwAF, however. Also the centerline tank configuration was changed to a double setup early on., which is the one represented in the kit.
For a single seat Draken, there's really no alternative to the Hasegawa kit. It is much superior in most aspects, and can, if with some careful work, be bashed to a very decent TF-35X using the Heller twoseater parts.

The Heller Viggens, however, are really nice. Their main drawback is that they are totally devoid of any armament pylons beyond the centerline tank pylon. While the wing pylons easily can be scratched, the two air intake pylons will; have to be sourced either from the venerable Airfix prototype offering or one of the Matchbox Viggen kits. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any aftermarket parts just for that, but loads of other stuff is available from Maestro. Google away at your own risk!  ;D
Looking much fwd to see your Viggens. I'm after another couple as well as I think they'd be awesome in Danish allover green, f.i. So many air forces and so few kits..  :angel:
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

Beermonster58

Quote from: Pellson on December 31, 2023, 05:41:27 AM
Quote from: Beermonster58 on December 31, 2023, 03:37:33 AM
Quote from: Pellson on December 30, 2023, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: Gondor on December 30, 2023, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: Pellson on December 30, 2023, 09:50:42 AM
Quote from: kerick on December 30, 2023, 09:30:53 AMI'm surprised they have an RAF Jaguar but not the French. I hardly ever see the French version unless I'm missing something.

Both HobbyBoss and Italeri has at least had the Jaguar A in their lineups. I also think there's a Hasegawa issue.

Not in 1/48

Gondor

Sorry, mate. I only ever build 1/72 and have no idea at all about the offerings in any scale but Gods own ;)
Then we worship the same God? ;D  :thumbsup: I am currently working my way through a selection of Heller SAAB Viggens.  Sorry to admit that NONE will appear in Swedish markings but, I DO love that "fields and meadows" scheme. I also have (finally!) three Heller SAAB Drakens.  ;D I really like the Heller range.

There's no God but God..  ;)

The Heller Drakens are so-so as singleseaters, but the best game in town for twoseaters. The simplest way to enhance a Heller Draken somewhat is to fix the wing tips. look at this an compare with your outer wings. You'll see..



Do note that this is the Swedish twoseater, the Sk35C, having a short afterburner and hence a shorter tail - and no tail wheels! Your Heller kit will not feature that, but only the danish TF-35X configuration, that it btw shared with all other Drakens but the first J35A and B series that looked like above. None of them ever flew outside the RSwAF, however. Also the centerline tank configuration was changed to a double setup early on., which is the one represented in the kit.
For a single seat Draken, there's really no alternative to the Hasegawa kit. It is much superior in most aspects, and can, if with some careful work, be bashed to a very decent TF-35X using the Heller twoseater parts.

The Heller Viggens, however, are really nice. Their main drawback is that they are totally devoid of any armament pylons beyond the centerline tank pylon. While the wing pylons easily can be scratched, the two air intake pylons will; have to be sourced either from the venerable Airfix prototype offering or one of the Matchbox Viggen kits. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any aftermarket parts just for that, but loads of other stuff is available from Maestro. Google away at your own risk!  ;D
Looking much fwd to see your Viggens. I'm after another couple as well as I think they'd be awesome in Danish allover green, f.i. So many air forces and so few kits..  :angel:
Construction of the first is nearly finished. It will represent a SAAB AJ-37 Tairneanach (Thunderbolt) operated by the Feachd an Adhair Poblachd Neo-eisimeileach na h-Alba (Air Force of the Independent Scottish Republic). I'm building it as a maritime strike version because I want to use those big, mean looking Rb 04 missiles (donated by the Airfix kit!). The most recent  issue of the Heller kit retains the parts for the SK and, SF variants as well as a 30mm Oerlikon KCA cannon pod and, four Sidewinders..  Scratchbuilding pylons is straightforward at least and, my spares dept will furnish plenty things that go bang. ;D . My Viggens will also be plumbed for wing tanks because, I have a pair of RPK-10  fuel tank/bomb carriers that will look just dandy under the wings of another AJ-37! The kit is easily available at very reasonable prices. I didn't pay more than £15 for any of them.
I'm not a stickler for accuracy and, the Heller Drakens look fine to me. I do think though it would look good in a "fields and meadows" type scheme! I'm also warming to an all over green Danish version of the Viggen.....! :thumbsup:
Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!

zenrat



50 shades of grey...

Wish I had the patience to do that in scale.


Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Pellson

The Heller Jaktviggen (JA37) issue that has the gun pack will also bring the front pylons.

FYI:
The original AJ37 Attackviggen and SF/SH37 reconnaissance Viggens has the slightly shorter fin whereas the Sk37 trainer and JA37 interceptor versions has the taller one. However, in the works leading up to the successor JAS39 Gripen, an enhanced/reinforced Viggen , the A20, was considered to replace the old AJ's. Externally, it was more or less a JA37 (large fin), also carrying over the RM8B engine of the JA variant, but internally it had more strike oriented radar and systems.

Maybe the Scots got that?

Fred: it's unpainted aluminium, actually..  ;)
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

PR19_Kit


Quote from: Pellson on December 31, 2023, 05:41:27 AM


Just about the BEST pic of the underside of a Draken I've ever seen! As Fred says, it'd be the hell of a job to paint, but wouldn't it look good?  :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

zenrat

Quote from: Pellson on January 01, 2024, 02:57:54 AM...Fred: it's unpainted aluminium, actually..  ;)

Thanks Mr P.

Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2024, 03:34:35 AM...Just about the BEST pic of the underside of a Draken I've ever seen! As Fred says, it'd be the hell of a job to paint, but wouldn't it look good?  :thumbsup:

It would look fantastic if one pulled it off.  But one would have to display it either in flight or standing on a mirror otherwise no-one would see all ones work.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..