Heller

[Beermonster58]

The Heller Jaktviggen (JA37) issue that has the gun pack will also bring the front pylons.

FYI:
The original AJ37 Attackviggen and SF/SH37 reconnaissance Viggens has the slightly shorter fin whereas the Sk37 trainer and JA37 interceptor versions has the taller one. However, in the works leading up to the successor JAS39 Gripen, an enhanced/reinforced Viggen , the A20, was considered to replace the old AJ's. Externally, it was more or less a JA37 (large fin), also carrying over the RM8B engine of the JA variant, but internally it had more strike oriented radar and systems.

Maybe the Scots got that?

Fred: it's unpainted aluminium, actually.. 

Well, I had originally intended to use the Airfix kits (I have two) but have long term plans to produce an enhanced Viggen  by  combining one  with the two seat parts from the Heller kit while lengthening the fuselage to provide additional internal fuel . It  wouldn't be difficult to modify it to the larger fin. I will also be using all nine hardpoints. I had thought about extending the wing span but, laziness got in the way!

[zenrat]

... I had thought about extending the wing span but, laziness got in the way!

I hate it when that happens.  But then I can't be bothered to do anything about it.   

[Beermonster58]

... I had thought about extending the wing span but, laziness got in the way!

I hate it when that happens.  But then I can't be bothered to do anything about it.   

😂😂. Great minds think alike! 👍

[Weaver]

Hmm, I know that Draken underside looks like it's a dozen different shades, but I'm thinking it might actually be only three or four and it's the patchwork of contrasts that makes it look like more. Also, there's a fair bit of dirt streaking that's making some panels look darker than others.

Re the Viggen, am I right in thinking that one failing of the Heller JA-37 boxing is that it has exactly the same fuselage as the AJ, but in fact the JA-37 was slightly longer due to the modified engine?

[Pellson]

Re the Viggen, am I right in thinking that one failing of the Heller JA-37 boxing is that it has exactly the same fuselage as the AJ, but in fact the JA-37 was slightly longer due to the modified engine?

Yes, but only about 10cm/4", and if you're really picky, that extension is slightly wedgeshaped as the foreward part of the fuselage was reattached at an angle, giving a 6 degree nose down attitude.
However, all that is almost unnoticeable in real life, so there's really no need to replicate it by sawing a kit in half. I've done it and it makes very little difference.

[Weaver]

Re the Viggen, am I right in thinking that one failing of the Heller JA-37 boxing is that it has exactly the same fuselage as the AJ, but in fact the JA-37 was slightly longer due to the modified engine?

Yes, but only about 10cm/4", and if you're really picky, that extension is slightly wedgeshaped as the foreward part of the fuselage was reattached at an angle, giving a 6 degree nose down attitude.
However, all that is almost unnoticeable in real life, so there's really no need to replicate it by sawing a kit in half. I've done it and it makes very little difference.

So about 1.5mm then? That seems worth ignoring.

I have Heller AJs and JAs in the stash, the idea being to exploit the inaccuracies of them to build a hybrid Swedish Navy carrier-based version...  

[Pellson]

Re the Viggen, am I right in thinking that one failing of the Heller JA-37 boxing is that it has exactly the same fuselage as the AJ, but in fact the JA-37 was slightly longer due to the modified engine?

Yes, but only about 10cm/4", and if you're really picky, that extension is slightly wedgeshaped as the foreward part of the fuselage was reattached at an angle, giving a 6 degree nose down attitude.
However, all that is almost unnoticeable in real life, so there's really no need to replicate it by sawing a kit in half. I've done it and it makes very little difference.

So about 1.5mm then? That seems worth ignoring.

I have Heller AJs and JAs in the stash, the idea being to exploit the inaccuracies of them to build a hybrid Swedish Navy carrier-based version...  

We likes that. 
And a good backstory to that, detailing just why Sweden would need a carrier. Colonies in the Caribbean and West Africa, perhaps? 

[Gondor]

Paint it in Japaneese Maritime Blue and put Norwegian markings on it then you could call it a "Parrot"

  

Gondor

[Rick Lowe]

Paint it in Japaneese Maritime Blue and put Norwegian markings on it then you could call it a "Parrot"

  

Gondor

             

[Rheged]

We likes that. 
And a good backstory to that, detailing just why Sweden would need a carrier. Colonies in the Caribbean and West Africa, perhaps? 

We likes it very much.  A Swedish carrier is a logical idea.  In the  Lansen time-scale, Sweden was neutral and so a carrier able to carry  UN  aid to disaster areas is believable...............and a group of Sea Lansens to  impose tranquillity in a potentially fraught area  is sensible:  or as my grand-daughter said "To spank the naughty boys"

[Rick Lowe]

'Impose Tranquility'...   

A UN-sponsored relief vessel with optional 'Big Stick' capabilities would make a lot of sense in the RW, too - there again, the conspiracy nuts would be able to point at it and say "See - we were right!", so maybe not...

[Pellson]

We likes that. 
And a good backstory to that, detailing just why Sweden would need a carrier. Colonies in the Caribbean and West Africa, perhaps? 

We likes it very much.  A Swedish carrier is a logical idea.  In the  Lansen time-scale, Sweden was neutral and so a carrier able to carry  UN  aid to disaster areas is believable...............and a group of Sea Lansens to  impose tranquillity in a potentially fraught area  is sensible:  or as my grand-daughter said "To spank the naughty boys"

We were formally neutral all the way until the NATO membership application last year, and quite active in the UN ever since it's inception.

In the 18th century, we actually did have two American colonies, New Sweden (approximately todays Delaware, if I remember correctly, and the Caribbean island St Barthelemy. Also, we had a slave fortress on our own for a very short time in Western Africa. So there are possibilities.. 

[NARSES2]

In the 18th century, we actually did have two American colonies, New Sweden (approximately todays Delaware, if I remember correctly, and the Caribbean island St Barthelemy. Also, we had a slave fortress on our own for a very short time in Western Africa. So there are possibilities.. 

It's an interesting idea and if Charles XII had won at Poltava in 1709, an idea that could have been an actuality. With Sweden controlling the Baltic they may well have turned their eyes away from Europe.

[Weaver]

Re the Viggen, am I right in thinking that one failing of the Heller JA-37 boxing is that it has exactly the same fuselage as the AJ, but in fact the JA-37 was slightly longer due to the modified engine?

Yes, but only about 10cm/4", and if you're really picky, that extension is slightly wedgeshaped as the foreward part of the fuselage was reattached at an angle, giving a 6 degree nose down attitude.
However, all that is almost unnoticeable in real life, so there's really no need to replicate it by sawing a kit in half. I've done it and it makes very little difference.

So about 1.5mm then? That seems worth ignoring.

I have Heller AJs and JAs in the stash, the idea being to exploit the inaccuracies of them to build a hybrid Swedish Navy carrier-based version...  

We likes that. 
And a good backstory to that, detailing just why Sweden would need a carrier. Colonies in the Caribbean and West Africa, perhaps? 

I have visions of putting it on a carrier-deck base with the side of the island forming the backdrop. The island wall would be painted in angular green/grey cammo with the Swedish for "BEWARE JET BLAST AND ROTORS" stencilled on it in yellow...

[Beermonster58]

Re the Viggen, am I right in thinking that one failing of the Heller JA-37 boxing is that it has exactly the same fuselage as the AJ, but in fact the JA-37 was slightly longer due to the modified engine?

Yes, but only about 10cm/4", and if you're really picky, that extension is slightly wedgeshaped as the foreward part of the fuselage was reattached at an angle, giving a 6 degree nose down attitude.
However, all that is almost unnoticeable in real life, so there's really no need to replicate it by sawing a kit in half. I've done it and it makes very little difference.

I agree. Of course there are some who WOULD  worry about it but, I just don't see the point in faffing about over something that's not even going to be noticed. My proposed two seat Super Viggen  will be about 2 metres longer though and, I think that might just be noticeable!   . Combination of the Airfix kit (extended fuselage) and, the two seat SK.37 parts from the Heller kit. Not started yet though!