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Started by Radish, September 01, 2007, 09:46:18 AM

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Thorvic

Nope I seem to recall Airfix had their own Fouga kit, and its a re-issue of that one
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Thorvic on September 12, 2014, 07:54:29 AM
Nope I seem to recall Airfix had their own Fouga kit, and its a re-issue of that one

Airfix did have their own Magister, I've got one somewhere, but the Heller one was better IMHO. Looks like another misuse of the word 'new', where what they mean is 'new decals'. I like the idea of doing an IAC Swallows aircraft though, I was at RIAT when they stunned everyone by winning the 'Best Aerobatic Team' award, superb flying with an aircraft that's not really suited to close-in formation stuff.
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Weaver

The old Airfix kit is pretty good actually. It's biggest sin is that it's covered in over-size rivets, but a little sandpaper will soon cure that. It goes together in a very pleasing fashion.
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NARSES2

Quote from: Thorvic on September 12, 2014, 07:54:29 AM
Nope I seem to recall Airfix had their own Fouga kit, and its a re-issue of that one

Ah, chalk up another kit Airfix produced that I knew nout about  :thumbsup:
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Quote from: NARSES2 on September 13, 2014, 06:02:07 AM
Quote from: Thorvic on September 12, 2014, 07:54:29 AM
Nope I seem to recall Airfix had their own Fouga kit, and its a re-issue of that one

Ah, chalk up another kit Airfix produced that I knew nout about  :thumbsup:

http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=280&t=1163

That might help  ;)
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Thorvic

Oh they sent another Final vlearance email this morning, so ordered a Valiant, a pair of the valiant addons and a shar  :thumbsup:
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zenrat

I've always liked the Magister.  They look like they need lots of underwing stores and jungle camo though.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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rickshaw

Quote from: zenrat on September 14, 2014, 05:07:32 AM
I've always liked the Magister.  They look like they need lots of underwing stores and jungle camo though.


Have you seen how short the undercarriage is?   :banghead:
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Quote from: rickshaw on September 14, 2014, 07:35:36 AM
Quote from: zenrat on September 14, 2014, 05:07:32 AM
I've always liked the Magister.  They look like they need lots of underwing stores and jungle camo though.


Have you seen how short the undercarriage is?   :banghead:

You don't so much look AT a Magister on the ground as look OVER it!  :o
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Old Wombat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 14, 2014, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: rickshaw on September 14, 2014, 07:35:36 AM
Quote from: zenrat on September 14, 2014, 05:07:32 AM
I've always liked the Magister.  They look like they need lots of underwing stores and jungle camo though.


Have you seen how short the undercarriage is?   :banghead:

You don't so much look AT a Magister on the ground as look OVER it!  :o

Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer legs? :blink:
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Airfix Magister has the small tip tanks and is supposed to be a little better in detail, Heller has the larger tip tanks and IIRC the Irish aircraft had the bigger tanks.

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Magister walkaround on a US test pilot school's website: http://www.eaa1000.av.org/pix/fouga/fouga.htm

I particularly like this passage:

Quote
The Fouga is not equipped with ejection seats. Then again, neither was the P-51 or any other World War II fighter, which were in about the same speed and altitude class. Each aircrew wears a backpack style parachute (provided with the aircraft). For semi-automatic operation, the D-ring is attached to the airplane with a static line. If it became necessary to leave the aircraft in anger, release the canopy by pulling the canopy locking lever and the canopy should open and blow away (push it a little if necessary). Then get up and dive over the side (your IP will brief you on the best way to do this). When you get to the end of the static line, it will pull your D-ring, deploying the parachute.


CAUTION

You will lose massive cool points if, at the end of your flight, safely back in your parking spot, you get out of the jet without first disconnecting the static line. Pulling out part of the static line is bad. Getting far enough to deploy the parachute is...well, you don't want to think about it.

Part of the success criteria for a good mission is never finding out how long that static line is.


Also shown here behind the rear seat is the rear pressure bulkhead. While some Fougas make it appear that you can see through the rear canopy, you can't: this bulkhead is in the way. The aft glass just allows the radio antennas to see the world. Here the aft canopy is painted over. The radios haven't complained yet.


;D :thumbsup:
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zenrat

Quote from: Old Wombat on September 14, 2014, 05:04:50 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 14, 2014, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: rickshaw on September 14, 2014, 07:35:36 AM
Quote from: zenrat on September 14, 2014, 05:07:32 AM
I've always liked the Magister.  They look like they need lots of underwing stores and jungle camo though.


Have you seen how short the undercarriage is?   :banghead:

You don't so much look AT a Magister on the ground as look OVER it!  :o

Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer legs? :blink:

There is plenty of room for some HVARS.
Less room on this one though.


This one looks interesting.


http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008/05/01/fouga-magister-whistling-turtles-in-belgian-skies/
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Weaver

Quote from: zenrat on September 14, 2014, 09:31:25 PM
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 14, 2014, 05:04:50 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 14, 2014, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: rickshaw on September 14, 2014, 07:35:36 AM
Quote from: zenrat on September 14, 2014, 05:07:32 AM
I've always liked the Magister.  They look like they need lots of underwing stores and jungle camo though.


Have you seen how short the undercarriage is?   :banghead:

You don't so much look AT a Magister on the ground as look OVER it!  :o

Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer legs? :blink:

There is plenty of room for some HVARS.


Not as much as you'd think: remember that the undercarriage is also fairly wide, and that the airbrakes retract into the top and bottom of the wing. These two items use up a fair proportion of the available area. IIRC, the armed Israeli ones managed to carry one 7-round FFAR pod under each wing.

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 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

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 - Indiana Jones

PR19_Kit

Quote from: zenrat on September 14, 2014, 09:31:25 PM
There is plenty of room for some HVARS.
Less room on this one though.


That looks like one of the Diable Rouge aerobatic team's aircraft. Those guys really flew VERY low indeed and it looks like he got ultra-low on the approach and left his landing gear lowering until way too late.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit