Airfix

[rickshaw]

Three? 

The 'Grey and Green Arrows'? 

Didn't OGL do that a few years ago, with 4 Vulcans going vertical in very close proximity?

For once Not Guilty.

That would have been the VDT (Vulcan Display Team) a joint effort between Aircav and Lancer.

Are there any photos of them?  4 Vulcans would be impressive even in model form.

[Martin H]

Three? 

The 'Grey and Green Arrows'? 

Didn't OGL do that a few years ago, with 4 Vulcans going vertical in very close proximity?

For once Not Guilty.

That would have been the VDT (Vulcan Display Team) a joint effort between Aircav and Lancer.

Are there any photos of them?  4 Vulcans would be impressive even in model form.

I think I have one or two photos. They would be very low Rez thou as the camera I had at the time was an old Sony Mavica.

<edit- found em>

From the 2003 UK Nationals. The year we did the mega TSR-2 display.
There is another one but I wont post it up as a certain person who tends to raises hell for no good reason if his image appears in a photo happens to be in the back ground of the shot.

[rickshaw]

Interesting.  Not what I expected at all.   Now, who could that be, I wonder?

[kitnut617]

There is another one but I wont post it up as a certain person who tends to raises hell for no good reason if his image appears in a photo happens to be in the back ground of the shot.

Now, who could that be, I wonder?

I'd imagine the ones who want to know, already do ---- just look for a table with gob loads of Spitfires ----- 

[The Wooksta!]

Provided said individual is pixelated or otherwise blurred, no comeback would be incurred.

[The Wooksta!]

Seen the build article on the new Mosquito in the August issue of Airfix Magazine and whilst the kit looks impressive (with some caveats), the build is less so.  Metal chips on a wooden airframe covered with fabric?  Weighted wheels not aligned?  Totally overweathered as seems to be the fashion these days, whether or not the real thing actually looked like that.

He's commented on the kit having TT.35 bomb doors and fixed them yet hasn't filled the cutouts in the rear fairing, no mention of the fact that the tailwheel is quite simply wrong.

[NARSES2]

Totally overweathered as seems to be the fashion these days, whether or not the real thing actually looked like that.

I agree with you there Lee although maybe the wheel is turning ? There's been a couple of builds in recent SAM's (inc. July's) where the builders have mentioned that they to feel to many builds are over weathered. But hey it's a free world and all down to personal taste.

I should say that I don't weather and all my builds are finished as if having just been made ready for a very senior persons inspection, but that's only because I lack the basic skills to even get simple weathering to look right 

[Old Wombat]

I probably over-weather aircraft but I put that down to being primarily an armour modeller & armour gets dirty.

[kitbasher]

Aircraft simply don't get as scruffy as some weathered models would suggest - just think of the drag penalties (and I don't mean Ru Paul!).  They'll get some TLC ahead of next use - the tyres will certainly get dirty but even then not for very long.  It's when an aircraft has languished on a scrap heap, a fire dump or in some corner of an airfield (for example as a decoy on a military airfield) that weathering will become really apparent.

Personally, less is so much more.  The weathering skills of some modellers are very very good but ultimately can detract from the finished item.

I must emphasise I'm only referring to aircraft as that's what I make.  I accept AFVs are a different matter, and that ships/boats will weather differently.

[The Wooksta!]

The irony with the Mosquito featured is that several pages later there was a photo of another aircraft with the same unit in a similar timeframe (ie the serial was only a few digits different) yet the weathering of the real thing was evident but nowhere near as bad.

I'd also argue that the canopy was badly done too, although it looks like we're ARE getting drop in side panels, to do either a IX or a XVI, although the canopy changed with the XVI, having heavier framing and some minor changes to deal with the pressurisation.

I'm also dubious about the u/c, as it looks to be handed from the build, yet the real thing had two sets of the same gear rather than two handed legs.  The wire guards also look a tad clumsy compared to the Tamiya ones.  Ditto some of the cockpit detail, but we're unlikely to notice that. 

[Gondor]

Three? 

The 'Grey and Green Arrows'? 

Well two will be variations of the box art and the third will probably be a Skybolt carrier seeing I have both versions by Blackdog.

Gondor

EDIT: Third will be in wrap around scheme so one for each main camouflage scheme.

I'm interested on your opinion of the kits Alastair ----

Me too. Thinking of using my old one for an Atlantic and something needing a British bomber nose. If I can be motivated enough to buy a new one.

Adding to the list of build threads is this one

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235095937-new-tool-vulcan-b2-rivet-counted-build-x2/page/7/&tab=comments#comment-4132014

He seams to know exactly what each lump or bump on the airframe was for so if you want to be very accurate with your build it's probably the best thread to follow.

Gondor

On looking through the instructions I notice that there is neither the Radar Warning Receiver on the fin top or any Terrain Following Radar nipple for the nose, however the parts for both are on the sprues so there are more options than supplied in the kit so I forsee another boxing in the future with possibly an additional sprue for the Black Buck mission load outs.

[NARSES2]

As a matter of interest Alastair what are the wheels like ? As I've mentioned elsewhere I've been a little disappointed with those in my last couple of Airfix new tools.

[Gondor]

As a matter of interest Alastair what are the wheels like ? As I've mentioned elsewhere I've been a little disappointed with those in my last couple of Airfix new tools.

ROUND!!! 









and rather nice. I have compaired them to the wheels provided with the older B.2 and they look a little crisper. Then nose wheels look far better, no dishing of the inner faces. 

I don't know what it is about the Airfix packageing or plastic these days, but the box mine arrived in stinks! Literally!! I was checking my footware to make sure I hadn't trod in something, which I hadn't.

Gondor

[NARSES2]

Cheers mate, thank you 

They've probably been on a slow boat from India in a container loaded with curry spices 

[Gondor]

Cheers mate, thank you 

They've probably been on a slow boat from India in a container loaded with curry spices 

One additional note about the wheels and undercarriage. The axles are on the undercarriage and not the wheels as in the old boxing which means the ends of the undercarriage should be more representative of the real thing.

The bomb bay looks nice and I am mentally working on a way to transplant that to one of the old kits, the main problem that I need to work out is how to replicate the roof detail that is molded into the upper parts of the wing/fuselage, the rest I am sure I can replace or replicate.

I also saw in a thread on Britmodeller that there are flashed over holes for the Black Buck pylons were mounted and as the instructions don't call for the use of the TFR and RWR fin tip that are in the kit we can assume that there will be a Falklands option in another boxing some time down the line.

Gondor