Soviet Super Yamato

ysi_maniac · February 27, 2011, 07:28:28 PM

150000 ton

360 m long

With 12 and 15 18in guns respectively

Taiidantomcat · February 27, 2011, 08:36:02 PM

Wow

Cobra · February 27, 2011, 08:39:33 PM

just when i read the Title, i started to Hum the 'Star Blazers' Theme! that's the Idea i got from the heading. Hope to see more. Dan

dragon · February 27, 2011, 08:47:29 PM

Now if you added some Cruise Missile launchers and CWIS like on the IOWA-Class Battleships circa Desert Storm......

ysi_maniac · February 28, 2011, 06:09:45 AM

The Alternative History behind this project is that Soviet Agents capture some leading naval designers in Japan in '45 fall. Then, they were pressed to design a totally new class composed by 2 huge battleships (called Stalin and Lenin respectively) and an equally giant carrier (called Soviet Union).

My plan is making hull with Nichimo's 30cm (1/875 approx) Yamato and superstructure with a pair of Revell's 1/1200 Yamatos.

lenny100 · March 02, 2011, 07:50:01 AM

there was a book a few years ago about a soviet super battleship which was stolen at the end of the cold war and used as a pirate ship, during the book it took on two iwoa class ships and sunk one of them, was only betten when one of the iwoa class got a shot in using a tatical nuke shell

Jschmus · March 02, 2011, 02:30:07 PM

Replace the B and X turrets with domed missile launchers, and he could be a member of the fictional K-1000 class.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-1000_battleship

http://bit.ly/hExoPT

There's a Shipbucket style illustration at the second link.

royabulgaf · March 02, 2011, 05:03:24 PM

there was a book a few years ago about a soviet super battleship which was stolen at the end of the cold war and used as a pirate ship, during the book it took on two iwoa class ships and sunk one of them, was only betten when one of the iwoa class got a shot in using a tatical nuke shell

It makes you wonder what doesn't get published. I know this is whiffery and all, but this makes Clive Cussler sound like E M Forester

pyro-manic · March 03, 2011, 01:32:20 PM

I've read that book - it's called Iron Man. Basically a bunch of disaffected Soviet naval officers are contacted by a shady group of criminals, and they take the battleship (Stalin, 75,000 tonnes, two feet of armour and nine 22" guns!) and go pirating with it. It culminates when they hold up an American light cruiser and steal it's complement of nuclear depth charges (destined for Saddam Hussein to fit to his Scud missiles). Iowa and Missouri are re-activated and sent after Stalin in the south Pacific, who sinks Missouri before Iowa cripples her. The noble Soviet captain abandons ship with his crew, just before one of the gang members accidentally detonates one of the nuclear weapons. It was fairly entertaining as a teenager, but I read it again a few years ago and it's really not very good. Never mind the daft concepts involved, the writing is pretty poor as well.

lenny100 · March 03, 2011, 01:55:45 PM

Quote from: pyro-manic on March 03, 2011, 01:32:20 PM
I've read that book - it's called Iron Man. Basically a bunch of disaffected Soviet naval officers are contacted by a shady group of criminals, and they take the battleship (Stalin, 75,000 tonnes, two feet of armour and nine 22" guns!) and go pirating with it. It culminates when they hold up an American light cruiser and steal it's complement of nuclear depth charges (destined for Saddam Hussein to fit to his Scud missiles). Iowa and Missouri are re-activated and sent after Stalin in the south Pacific, who sinks Missouri before Iowa cripples her. The noble Soviet captain abandons ship with his crew, just before one of the gang members accidentally detonates one of the nuclear weapons. It was fairly entertaining as a teenager, but I read it again a few years ago and it's really not very good. Never mind the daft concepts involved, the writing is pretty poor as well.

yer thats the one read it many years ago so i was diging it up so i wasnt that far out

rickshaw · March 03, 2011, 10:09:27 PM

How about, "Commander Kaneda's gigantic Japanese 500,000 ton dreadnought design approximately 1914/1920."? Named, "Zipang". Page includes a ship bucket drawing of what it might have looked like.

Jschmus · March 03, 2011, 11:28:08 PM

Quote from: rickshaw on March 03, 2011, 10:09:27 PM
How about, "Commander Kaneda's gigantic Japanese 500,000 ton dreadnought design approximately 1914/1920."? Named, "Zipang". Page includes a ship bucket drawing of what it might have looked like.

Great googly moogly!!!!

If the Japanese had ever built that thing, I don't think they'd have had the steel to build anything else, except for maybe a handful of escorts. I'd be afraid to fire all those guns in a broadside, lest the ship roll over.

Thorvic · March 04, 2011, 12:00:45 AM

Combrig are currently working on a 1/700 projected Soviet Battlecruiser Stalingrad which might give an insight on the look & feel of how a Soviet Super Battleship might appear.

Kit wise Fujimi did a super Yamato which included the 20" twin turrets as alternative to the triple 18" turrets !!!. Think Proditor is working on one of those, but its one of those kits that can be hard to track down in Europe.

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rickshaw · March 04, 2011, 05:29:06 AM

Quote from: Jschmus on March 03, 2011, 11:28:08 PM
Quote from: rickshaw on March 03, 2011, 10:09:27 PM
How about, "Commander Kaneda's gigantic Japanese 500,000 ton dreadnought design approximately 1914/1920."? Named, "Zipang". Page includes a ship bucket drawing of what it might have looked like.

Great googly moogly!!!!

If the Japanese had ever built that thing, I don't think they'd have had the steel to build anything else, except for maybe a handful of escorts. I'd be afraid to fire all those guns in a broadside, lest the ship roll over.

Be interesting to see how they'd designate the turrets. They adopted the RN practice of using letters originally. With that one, they'd have to adopt the USN practice of using numbers and then they'd still be getting into double digits for the primaries and triple digits for the secondaries!

With a ship that big, I'd be tempted to experiment and put a few 18in Howitzers a'la HMS Furious on it, just to make things interesting!

pyro-manic · March 07, 2011, 11:00:25 AM

Perhaps it would be A Battery, B Battery, etc, rather than a letter for each turret. Then A-1, A-2 etc. for each individual turret in the grouping.

Insane concept, but quite a neat-looking thing in it's own way. I think I'd change it a bit though, as it seems to be a gun-farm with precious little else in the way of equipment. Also might be tricky to berth - she's going to have a ludicrous draught, and manoeuvring into and out of harbour would be interesting.