RAAF Camo Schem Query

Started by Cobra, March 06, 2011, 12:06:30 AM

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rickshaw

There are several other factors which should be considered in this discussion as well. 
Today, too many people rely upon what their computer screens display when judging colours. 
Problem is, computer screens are very poor, particularly LCD ones, at displaying shades and
colours correctly.   Professional "colourists" (yes, there are such people) who work in
advertising, the movies, etc. run around trying to get the colours to look right, not just
in print but on the screen as well, with the result that through various tricks from the
primitive (changing the colour the actor is wearing) through to  quite advanced (computer
manipulation of the colour displayed on screen) to get the right "effect".

This problem has been known since the earliest days of photography - different chemicals,
drying times, fixatives, etc produce very different results.   Judging colours, particularly
from black and white sources is fraught with all sorts of difficulties.  Which leads into my
next point...

Then you have the problems of colour perception.  Many people see colours quite
subjectively.  Eyes and the minds they are attached to often perceive colours in very
different shades and tones.  Gender may even play a part in this.  Women seem to perceive
colours in very different ways to men.  I refuse to judge colours when I'm asked by a woman
to do so 'cause I invariably perceive them in very different ways to them.   I often joke
that "men only see seven colours and they're a bit iffy on two of them!"   Women appear to
see squillions of non-existent colours.  Then you have the names assigned to colours.  They
can often be quite culturally specific.  You ask an Australian, used to the dried, sere
washed out colours of their continent to judge colours based upon European or North American
experience and they often come up with very different names compared to their counterparts. 
Something many Australians remark upon, in their first visit to Europe is, "how bright
green it all is!"

So, colours are one of those areas which IMHO are pretty subjective.  Attempting to relate
them to a common standard such as the US FS system is, apart from the technical and
historical contexts, fraught with a great deal of subjective and cultural baggage.
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Quote from: rickshaw on March 08, 2011, 10:43:17 PM

Then you have the problems of colour perception.  Many people see colours quite
subjectively.  Eyes and the minds they are attached to often perceive colours in very
different shades and tones.  Gender may even play a part in this.  Women seem to perceive
colours in very different ways to men.  I refuse to judge colours when I'm asked by a woman
to do so 'cause I invariably perceive them in very different ways to them. 

EXACTLY - we all see colours differently.













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There's an old saying out over on the ARC (Aircraft Resource Center) forums:

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The mods have to put out fires at least once a week and it's no fun for everyone involved.  It's not just about keeping civility but also keeping in mind that nobody's opinion is superior to anyone else's.  

Don't forget that these color references are only suggestions and there isn't such a thing as a "This is it, period" color reference out there.  IPMS Stockholm, Don Color, etc put in a lot of effort out there to help fellow modelers out.  You can follow their recommendations or you can skip them, and if you don't agree with them, recommend an alternative.  Slamming their efforts doesn't just make for bad form but reflects on the community as a whole.  In other words - please, please, please! - be nice.
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