In the navy.. Ok post your Ideas and build proposals here

[Thorvic]

Please post your build ideas or proposals here and then create a seperate build thread when the GB starts next week.

Its mainly to put down your build ideas and ensure builds don't clash, but also handy for discussing those builds if you have any questions or looking to source kits or parts required for your build(s).

[Thorvic]

Trying to decide what to do for the Group Build, it will probably be an Aircraft Carrier of some form in 1/700 scale but torn between doing:-

• scratchbuilt USN CVV fleet carrier proposal from the 1970's as a smaller alternative to the big Super Carriers
• 1964 RAN proposal for an Oriskany style Modified Angled Deck Essex class to replace the HMAS Melbourne complete with the F-4B phantons.

For the former i would have to scratch build most of the CVV but can utilise various kits to fit out the ship and populate the flight deck. However the hull is relatively clean being a new design so wouldn't be too hard to shape.

For the later it would probably need a Trumpeter Essex class kit, Although the Dragon kits can be more detailed and have some of the correct Bridge layout, their hulls are moulded upto the flight deck and have the deck edge lift tracks moulded on. The Trumpeter kits are WW2 fit but are only moulded to the hanger deck and the lift tracks are seperate parts. The reason why this is important is that the angled deck ships were bulged out upto the hanger deck and it will be easier to adjust the Trumpeter kity with these additions.
RAN Phantoms becuase in 1964 it was still assumed that the Phantom would replace the Crusader across the board, it was only later that the USN actually confirmed that the Phantom wasn't safe for operations on its angled deck Essex class carriers (That why the UK had to adapt its aircraft to RR engines and extened the nose gear, although the F-4HL design with the new larger wing would have made the aircraft compatible with Essex class use  .

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[Weaver]

Probably going to be this one:

1. Type 84 destroyer: Type 82 (HMS Bristol) on steroids for a "richer Britain" timeline, basically. Has double-ended Sea Dart with four trackers and Ikara in the middle or on the quarterdeck. Got a cheap Spruance for the hull, two Type 42s and an Invincible to chop up, so that should cover it....

Exact spec and layout will depend on a dry check of what will actually fit on the Sprucan hull. That in turn will decide whether there's going to be a spare Ikara launcher for the RN Mk.10 project.

[tigercat]

I will be doing a  Catapult armed Seaplane / Auto Gyro carrier  which will fill the gap between MAC ship and Escort carrier

[McColm]

I've had an idea of adding engines to the sailing ships of 'yester year'.  Maybe twin screws to the Cutty Sark or something similar. The 'Black Pearl' with a couple of jet pods welded on the upper deck.

[Thorvic]

Probably going to be this one:

1. Type 84 destroyer: Type 82 (HMS Bristol) on steroids for a "richer Britain" timeline, basically. Has double-ended Sea Dart with four trackers and Ikara in the middle or on the quarterdeck. Got a cheap Spruance for the hull, two Type 42s and an Invincible to chop up, so that should cover it....

Exact spec and layout will depend on a dry check of what will actually fit on the Sprucan hull. That in turn will decide whether there's going to be a spare Ikara launcher for the RN Mk.10 project.

Well you could fit the ikara as per the RAN Perth class between the funnels, leaving the former Ikara position fo your fwd Sea Dart launcher.

(BTW my original fit Type 82 is finally coming along as managed to create most of the structures for it)

[Thorvic]

I will be doing a  Catapult armed Seaplane / Auto Gyro carrier  which will fill the gap between MAC ship and Escort carrier

Sounds interesting, there are a variety of IJN submarine & Aircraft tenders that might prove suitable as donor kits, plus plenty of tankers and converted Aircraft carriers in 1/700. (IJN becuase the Japanese kit producers model the full range of IJN ships, where as allied warships are quite limited in variety even more so when it come to Auxilaries).

Geoff

[Weaver]

Probably going to be this one:

1. Type 84 destroyer: Type 82 (HMS Bristol) on steroids for a "richer Britain" timeline, basically. Has double-ended Sea Dart with four trackers and Ikara in the middle or on the quarterdeck. Got a cheap Spruance for the hull, two Type 42s and an Invincible to chop up, so that should cover it....

Exact spec and layout will depend on a dry check of what will actually fit on the Sprucan hull. That in turn will decide whether there's going to be a spare Ikara launcher for the RN Mk.10 project.

Well you could fit the ikara as per the RAN Perth class between the funnels, leaving the former Ikara position fo your fwd Sea Dart launcher.

(BTW my original fit Type 82 is finally coming along as managed to create most of the structures for it)

The Type 84 will have four Olympus with offset twin funnels. I've looked at a couple of schemes:

1. handling rooms next to funnels, launchers in the gap

2. handling room in the gap, launchers next to funnels

However neither is truly satisfactory, because they both imply a deep magazine in the middle of the ship next to the engines rooms, which I gather the RN isn't keen on. Current ideas are:

1. handling room in rear superstructure with No.3 type 909 cabin on it's roof and No.4 behind it with p&s launchers to either side

2. handling room beneath flight deck aft of X-posn. Sea Dart launcher (no hanger) with single launcher on quarterdeck as per Niterois. This scheme requires more hull length, but it frees up a launcher for another project and deck edge positions for other weapons.

[thedarkmaster]

As i have never made a ship model before i thought i'd go with something simple and the other day at work my eye fell upon the Revell 1/700 HMS Duke of York and thought about maybe extending her life to Suez and beyond.

Thats my thoughts so far but have got the kit and also a couple of Dragon 1/700 Royal Navy equipment sprues, though they are giving me headaches identifying the bits

[lenny100]

a 1/400 scale hybrid with a KGV front and big guns and a colossus rear end with 1950 aircraft and weapons system in use for the Suez crisis

[proditor]

I'm a little iffy as my mojo is shot, but I like my original ideas so I'll stick with them and hope to get back in the groove.

I'll be making HMS Lion (Modernized) and HMS...something or other, that's a coastal battelship armed with 8 x 14" guns.

Donor Kits: Prince of Wales for the Lion, and the 14" quads for the unnamed coastal beast.  HMS Rodney for the 16" guns on the Lion, and the hull on the...hmmm...maybe someone with a sense of humor names the heavily armed, heavily armored, not so fast ship the HMS Fisher?

[Tuck]

If I can fit it in:  1/350 Bismark/Tirpitz rebuilt into partial carrier ala HMS Furious (early with superstructure).  Some primary armament to remain.....

Oh yea....

[TsrJoe]

bad uncle Thorvic  has talked me into joining the build, just picked up the Heller 1/400 scale HMS. Colossus/Arromanches which i intend to complete as a Blue Streak satellite launcher for the group build (and will fit in with my current UK. space programme builds for the IPMS. project Cancelled SIG. display at Telford this year)

on order is the White ensign detailing set for the kit and a pair of 1/400 Wessex choppers to help add scale, so ill get underway with piccies when the frets arrive (hmm hoping it provides lil porthole rings and gutters on the etch)

cheers, joe

[NARSES2]

Well if I can find a suitable model I may well have a dash at this. Quite fancy getting an old Airfix HMS Nelson and changing it so the turret arangement is more orthodox. 2 forward one aft (see I know all the terms  )

[ysi_maniac]

^^^^^
Do you mean this?
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,28707.0/