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British Adder Mk2 Tank Destroyer.......Der Verbessert Englische PanzerJager

Started by beowulf, May 21, 2011, 09:16:28 AM

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beowulf

British Army Adder Mk2 Tank Destroyer..........Der Verbessert Englische PanzerJager  :lol:

This is follow up to the Mk1 I built last year....
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,30796.0.html
..had an image in my mind of an 'improved' version so a slightly modified back story is needed

At the end of the North African campaign the British army re-equipped its Tank Regiments with newly arrived Sherman's ready for the invasion of Italy in late '43. This left them with a large number of Crusader cruiser tanks which were perfectly usable yet out gunned and under armoured. The decision was made to try turning some into tank destroyers in the style of German and Soviet designs.
This resulted in the Mk1.....a short production run revealed that it still had limitations which led to the Mk2 with better sloped armour and a larger gun, and would become the design pattern to convert considerable numbers of Crusaders which would go on to provide sterling service in Italy and onwards into Germany






with unit of comparison

with the Mk1



Was made using a dead Crusader (possibly Italerai???) that I acquired in a box full of old built 1/35 tanks........main excuse to do this was to have some fun on the cheap..........everything other than the hull is either scratched or from the bits box...didn't even buy any plasticard for the casement cos I came up with a free alternative....it was a way to play around with washes and MiG dusts without using a new virgin kit......if it all went a bit Pete Tong I wasn't going to lose anything of worth
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Jacques Deguerre

Very nice! I thought the Mk. 1 was a great concept and this one could even be better (I like 'em both, so it's hard to decide).
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Brian da Basher

Sure looks the part, beowulf! I especially like your work on the details like the tarp and the mud on the tracks, wheels and skirts is some of the most realistic I've seen.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Weaver

Great one - I liked the original and this makes for a very nice evolution.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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philp

Wow, you have two done and I still haven't gotten the older Tamiya Sherman (M4A3) kit to convert to my JagdSherman.  I better keep looking.
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Joe C-P

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rickshaw

Mk. 1 was very good.  This is excellent.  Well done.   One wishes that the British had figured out the importance of slope earlier.   :thumbsup:
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Mr.Creak

Quote from: rickshaw on May 22, 2011, 12:13:48 AMOne wishes that the British had figured out the importance of slope earlier.
Slightly OT:
We had.
The original A9, for example, as David Fletcher pointed out in, I think, The Great Tank Scandal (the first of his HMSO-published trilogy on British armour in WWII)*.
But the official thinking was that sloped armour is only sloped when struck horizontally - which is an "ideal" occurrence. The thinking was that the thickness of vertical armour is always at least that thickness, whereas sloped armour, if hit on a downward trajectory suddenly becomes the actual thickness rather than the so-called ballistic thickness.

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Mossie

Fantastic!  And not what I was expecting, I thought you might go a bit more minimal with the changes.  The weathering really brings this one out, might be worth going over the Mk.I to bring it in line?
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beowulf

thanks for the comments, guys......was fun to do

there is not going to be a mk3!..................cos i dont have another Crusader hull  ;D.....shame cos i had the idea that a mk3 would be a '46 or '47 type thing and degunned with a couple of guided AT missiles  :mellow:

.............hes a very naughty boy!
allergic to aircraft in grey!
The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time........Bertrand Russell
I have come up with a plan so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it a weasel. ......Edmund Blackadder

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