Twins Bombers

[MiB]

[Pablo1965]

I think the "problem" of "very long range"  and "heavy" loads some of "us" are discussing is that they are strictly late-war phenomenon. That is, when the war stared in 1939, the Vickers Wellington *WAS* deemed a "heavy bomber". So the CRITERION for "heavy" and "long-range" kept creeping up during the war. I think a "Potez 1080", a twinned Potez 540, is a REASONABLE idea for getting an INTERIM "heavy" bomber in service. I think that the He-111 Zwilling was a "success" and showed the ingenious possibilities of what could be done using extant components, despite the obvious peculiarities.

The He-111Z, the Bf-109Z, and even the Twin Mustang show us that "twinning" *IS*feasible, but not the BEST solution.

Totally agree with that idea, my twin Hampden is just a temporary remedy.

[Pablo1965]

Then, the "Twin solution" was  seriously raised in those years. Thanks Kinut617, I knew nothing about it.

Whoops!! You've got the wrong end of the handle Pablo, this is my solution in an alternative history (my story must sound convincing then ---  ).  But the problem that the RAF had was real as they had no very heavy and very long range bombers.

I know, sorry the problem is my poor english, all what I mean was ironically, may be I needed to put in blue? Thanks again

[Pablo1965]

Sorry MIB, can you explain to me more about this vehicle? 

[kitnut617]

I know, sorry the problem is my poor english, all what I mean was ironically, may be I needed to put in blue? Thanks again

No apologies necessary Pablo ---

According to the articles I've read, there was some serious discussion at the top levels on what to do with the Pacific problem, a new big bomber was discussed but as I said, it was expected to be operational quite a few years down the road, this was before anything was known 'publicly' about the 'A-Bomb' and the ending result it had on the war, which had it not been dropped, the war was expected to go on for at least another year or maybe more.

[andrewj]

Except that the whole twinning concept is all nonsense anyway and a cliche for lazy whiffers.  As I've stated ad bleeding nausem, twins ONLY came into existence to get the Germans out of the hole they'd dug for themselves with regard to heavy aircraft capable of pulling the Me 321 and their lack of a credible strategic bomber.  The British, the French, the Russians and the US didn't have the same myopia or the lack of industrial capacity.  We'd have simply designed a bigger aircraft and built it.  The requirement for a twin in the German sense would never have existed and simply is not credible nor believable.

End of rant.

Only one thing to say to this , F 82.

[Pablo1965]

I know, sorry the problem is my poor english, all what I mean was ironically, may be I needed to put in blue? Thanks again

No apologies necessary Pablo ---

According to the articles I've read, there was some serious discussion at the top levels on what to do with the Pacific problem, a new big bomber was discussed but as I said, it was expected to be operational quite a few years down the road, this was before anything was known 'publicly' about the 'A-Bomb' and the ending result it had on the war, which had it not been dropped, the war was expected to go on for at least another year or maybe more.

I know at least two bombers models that arrived too late to the pacific conflict

[Zombolt]

The He-111Z, the Bf-109Z, and even the Twin Mustang show us that "twinning" *IS*feasible, but not the BEST solution.

I may be relativly new to Whiffing, yet Isn't Nothing Impossible here?

[Leading Observer]

As newbie myself, and seeing most of the stuff on here, most stuff is possible [even probable] if you have the skill and imagination. Sadly, I am rapidly discovering that my ambition outweighs my ability

[kitnut617]

As newbie myself, and seeing most of the stuff on here, most stuff is possible [even probable] if you have the skill and imagination. Sadly, I am rapidly discovering that my ambition outweighs my ability

But don't let that stop you from trying L.O.

[PR19_Kit]

The British, the French, the Russians and the US didn't have the same myopia or the lack of industrial capacity.  We'd have simply designed a bigger aircraft and built it. 

....like the Twin Mustang.......? 

And building a twin surely isn't lazy at all, it can be very hard work trying to get all the bits to fit, the back stories take some serious thinking up and, best of all, they look GREAT!

[Pablo1965]

I may be relativly new to Whiffing, yet Isn't Nothing Impossible here?
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of course, the stars are the limits.

[Pablo1965]

As newbie myself, and seeing most of the stuff on here, most stuff is possible [even probable] if you have the skill and imagination. Sadly, I am rapidly discovering that my ambition outweighs my ability

Rome was not built in a day, and your ability is something that is gradually

[Pablo1965]

Please guys, this thread was made to answer a question over the posibility to make heavy bombers of four or more engines, starting of two-egined planes, because the industrial capacity of the poor contenders like the Spanish Republic in 1939, or Grecian air force, or poland .. etc etc during WWII could reach the enemies industries, I think is clear this is a posibility, but dificult to build quickly.Let us focus on this. Thank you, all, very much.

[Pablo1965]

And building a twin surely isn't lazy at all, it can be very hard work trying to get all the bits to fit, the back stories take some serious thinking up and, best of all, they look GREAT!
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Agreed, completely agreed.