Heading to Scotland next summer.....

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[beowulf]

  Do these cameras often get damage/destroyed?

every now and then 


http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm

[lenny100]

There's a patch like that around Stoke on Trent.  A 20 mile stretch with a camera on each side of the road at half mile intervals...............and when I was last down that way, there were so many road works that exceeding 15 MPH was unlikely!!

Staffordshire was the county I had in mind when I wrote that. There's one point on the A38 that you can see EIGHT of the blasted things at the same time without even turning your head! 

So, if you were silly enough to speed along that stretch of road, would you get 8 fines or just 1 fine?

Its not surprising that people react with civil disobedience in the face of this level of government surveillance.  Do these cameras often get damage/destroyed?

you get 8 fines and 8 sets of point on your licence which will probably get you a 12 month driving ban

[Mossie]

So, if you were silly enough to speed along that stretch of road, would you get 8 fines or just 1 fine?

Its not surprising that people react with civil disobedience in the face of this level of government surveillance.  Do these cameras often get damage/destroyed?

Lenny's just beaten me to the pip, but yes eight fines, and not only would you be fined, you'd be banned from driving.  A speeding offence carries a penalty of three points, you're allowed a maximum of twelve before a ban so assuming you've got no other offences you can get three speeding fines, fourth you have to plead in front of a Magistrate.  You might get off if your living depends on your vehicle but expect a hefty fine.  Eight would put you double over the limit & you might get a prison term.  A big debate rages as to wether between people that  believe it's an excessive 'nanny state' attitude, a 'stealth tax' or that 'anyone that speeds should be locked up'.  The Top Gear guys have probably been the most high profile campaigners against it.

Along the stretch of road I've come along today there are at least ten speed camera locations over fifteen miles.  It got to the point a few years ago where nearly everybody I knew had at least three points on their licence.  Lack of funding has cut the amount of active cameras (which probably saved me from a slip a few months back) but the cameras are still in place & you don't know which ones are working.  There were talks to track speeding by satelite, the civil liberty guys went nuts with that one.

[PR19_Kit]

After managing NOT to get caught by any GATSO since they were invented, I was nabbed by a Welsh one (Grrrrrrr.......) about 2 months ago, but as I'd had a blameless record for the last 10 years or so they offered me a 'Speed Awareness Course' instead of a fine and points, which takes place on Sept 6th. I'll report back on how it goes.

Mrs PR19 was astonished, as indeed was I, as these days I usually follow the posted speed limits within 2-3 mph everywhere, except the 70 mph motorway and dual-carriagway limit, by using my cruise control about 75% of the time. Most of the time I do this to keep my fuel mileage within limits, being a pensioner of course.  Quite where the Welsh GATSO was I have no idea as I surely didn't see it, and it was supposedly on a 50 mph dual-carriageway. They omitted to tell me quite how MUCH I'd exceeded the limit by so I've asked for that information. We'll see what they come up with..........

[kitnut617]

Over here Kit, you get a photo of your car doing the  --err, offence, in the mail along with the ticket.  The difference here though is that the photo is always of the rear of the car because in Alberta, we're only required to have a rear registration plate on the vehicle.  Having said that, a lot of people have a different registration plate on the front of their cars (usually from a different province) which I have found out is totally illegal, it carries a C$500 fine if a cop chooses to ding you with it.

[Martin H]

LOL this must be one of the quickest and furthest thread drifts in the history of this forum.

[kitnut617]

Yeah! cc must think all that's in Scotland to take photos of is a speed camera every 1/2 mile

[Rheged]

LOL this must be one of the quickest and furthest thread drifts in the history of this forum.

In a desperate attempt to drag this thread back into  focus, can I suggest a visit to the Tain area. When I was up that way earlier this year, there was a surprising amount of various Euro-air forces  out to play on the Tain ranges

[JayBee]

LOL this must be one of the quickest and furthest thread drifts in the history of this forum.

Not too quick I hope in case you get caught and get some points on your licence

[Green Dragon]

Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie turned up in Scotland yesterday wearing sunglasses, we haven't seen the sun in weeks here! If you don't want to bump into and fall over stuff on your visit I wouldn't advise it! So dull today I can't see to paint anything.

Paul Harrison

[Gondor]

That was so they could either;

a) Not be recognised (but wearing sunglasses when no one else is kind of makes you stand out a bit...)

b) Not see the Zombies that are part of the movie Brad is filming in Glasgow

c) Because they think its cool even if its not

Gondor

[PR19_Kit]

In a desperate attempt to drag this thread back into  focus, can I suggest a visit to the Tain area. When I was up that way earlier this year, there was a surprising amount of various Euro-air forces  out to play on the Tain ranges

How near can you get to the ranges now? It looks from Google Earth as if the old road that ran down RAF Tain's main runway is now defunct as the causeway that used to run over the marshland to the east seems to have been removed.

[raafif]

don't forget to try the local Scottish delicacies -- Haggis & a more recent invention ... deep-fried Mars Bar  ,  or has that been superseded by something else now ?

What If boats enjoyed a Ferris-Wheel ride  ..... Falkirk Wheel
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkirk_Wheel


Oh yes ... and don't let a Glaswegian give you a "kiss"