the "Dump the JSF" (or "alternate NATO fighter aircraft after 2015") GB

McColm · November 22, 2011, 07:24:22 PM

The Fairey Albacore was the replacement for the Stringbat, it had a enclosed & heated cockpit and a more powerful engine, but it was retired before the Stringbat during it's service life.

scooter · November 22, 2011, 07:59:44 PM

Quote from: McColm on November 22, 2011, 07:24:22 PM
The Fairey Albacore was the replacement for the Stringbat, it had a enclosed & heated cockpit and a more powerful engine, but it was retired before the Stringbat during it's service life.

As I've read, it wasn't a truly suitable replacement for the Swordfish, so the Stringbag soldiered on.

tigercat · December 04, 2011, 01:31:06 AM

VTOL Swordfish it is then update the design to add a few nozzles and away you go.

http://www.mr-jan.dk/oshkosh/a06.htm

or even just add a jet engine

Taiidantomcat · December 06, 2011, 01:54:48 PM

Thought this was cool but the F-35 thread remains locked, so here it be

pyro-manic · December 06, 2011, 07:36:10 PM

Certainly prettier than Dave. Very F-23-ish.

Diamondback · December 14, 2011, 09:30:08 PM

What if the AST21 F-14 upgrade, and the Tomcat tooling, were dusted off and the line reopened? I'm in the process of trying to WhIF up an "Ultimate Nightmare Rebuild Tomcat From Hell Demonstrator" (see the F-14 Tomcat research thread), but it might be a foundation for somebody to improve on... of course, then I'm going to try to improve on your ideas, just 'cuz that's how I roll: "this is good--can I do better?"

"We're Like a Bad VD--Can't Get Rid Of Us THAT Easy, Baby!" LOL

Taiidantomcat · December 15, 2011, 08:45:04 AM

Quote from: Diamondback on December 14, 2011, 09:30:08 PM
What if the AST21 F-14 upgrade, and the Tomcat tooling, were dusted off and the line reopened? I'm in the process of trying to WhIF up an "Ultimate Nightmare Rebuild Tomcat From Hell Demonstrator" (see the F-14 Tomcat research thread), but it might be a foundation for somebody to improve on... of course, then I'm going to try to improve on your ideas, just 'cuz that's how I roll: "this is good--can I do better?"

"We're Like a Bad VD--Can't Get Rid Of Us THAT Easy, Baby!" LOL

Not quite the same thing but I had the Idea of blowing up some F-35 plans and getting a 1/48 Tomcat fueselage and trying to make it all proportional. Like an overgrown F-35 and a Tomcat mixed.

TsrJoe · June 28, 2013, 03:09:07 AM

Saab are strongly marketing the Gripen NG. as a common 'affordable' Scandanavian fighter to replace current types for Norway/Sweden/Denmark (Finland is currently looking at the type too as a potential Hornet replacement !)

Joe

McColm · June 28, 2013, 03:34:59 AM

I've added the wings from the Eurofighter Typhoon to a F-16A on one of my builds and the wings & tail from a F-18 to another F-18. There was a proposal for a carrier deck version of the F-16.

deathjester · June 28, 2013, 07:50:52 AM

Quote from: scooter on November 22, 2011, 02:41:42 PM
Quote from: Caveman on November 04, 2011, 10:37:14 AM
Not quite but not far off...

Considering the Stringbag never got replaced during WWII, sure, why not see it come back.

Not quite as crazy as it sounds - a few years ago, BMW created a fabric covered concept car, but this was a hi tech plastic/aluminium mix, and the car featured the ability to change shape to suit different needs, thanks to hydraulic rams fixed to various points. How about a next gen strike plane based on that idea?

McColm · June 29, 2013, 10:42:03 AM

Wasn't the "Switchblade " forward and rear VG wing aircraft supposed to that ? Slightly bigger than the First-111 using the forward sweep like a fighter and rear sweep as a bomber.
I saw a zap patch back in the late 80's but as to the aircraft I couldn't say.

darthspud · August 30, 2013, 10:31:00 AM

Just found this thread.
How about one wing of these?
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-shows-off-advanced-super-hornet-demonstrator-389930/
Now if only H.M. Govt had had the forethought to outfit QE & PoW with cat and trap.

PR19_Kit · August 30, 2013, 10:53:55 AM

Quote from: darthspud on August 30, 2013, 10:31:00 AM

Now if only H.M. Govt had had the forethought to outfit QE & PoW with cat and trap.

They did at one stage, and then reverted to the Ski Jump bow etc. My old employers were involved in quoting for the electro-magnetic catapult and I went to a few meetings about that before I retired.

darthspud · August 30, 2013, 11:17:52 AM

I've been interested in this subject for 8-10 years.
I really can not understand why, in this day and age, U.K.PLC don't buy off the shelf
F/A18 Super Hornet & Growler variants would be the smartest purchase, if MOD/HM Govt had brains in their heads rather than vested interest in out dated aerospace companies and getting directorships once out of power.
F/A18 is a proven 4th gen aircraft, in production. U.K. Armed forces (RAF &FAA) REALLY CAN'T JUSTIFY F35's massive unit price. For the price of two JSF we could get 9 F/A18 including support and armaments fit out. Armaments purchase is an extra for JSF.

wHO THE F**K are we really going to be fighting that can even match an F/A 18?
Most use of airpower is deterrent and force projection.
We want THE ENEMY TO SEE WHAT'S ABOUT TO MAKE THEIR DAY REALLY SHITTY

lancer · August 30, 2013, 11:21:48 AM

Quote from: darthspud on August 30, 2013, 10:31:00 AM
Just found this thread.
How about one wing of these?
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-shows-off-advanced-super-hornet-demonstrator-389930/
Now if only H.M. Govt had had the forethought to outfit QE & PoW with cat and trap.

Ah but they didn't want a steam powered cat. They wanted an electromagnetic cat. Really sensible of them eh??