HMS Hood and Admiral class Battlecruisers.

Started by DarrenP, October 27, 2011, 01:36:24 AM

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aston

Practises and displays for Londoners on the Thames, playing with Tower Bridge ....  :lol:

I think the problems were spotted early on .... !

wuzak

Quote from: aston on February 15, 2014, 09:46:21 AM
By the way .... why are aircraft carrier islands always on the starboard side ??

Right hand drive is better?

zenrat

Quote from: wuzak on February 15, 2014, 04:42:20 PM
Quote from: aston on February 15, 2014, 09:46:21 AM
By the way .... why are aircraft carrier islands always on the starboard side ??

Right hand drive is better?

Swing on take off due to engine torque with piston engines?  You'd rather the plane went into the sea than into the superstructure?

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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Mr.Creak

Quote from: aston on February 15, 2014, 09:46:21 AMBy the way .... why are aircraft carrier islands always on the starboard side ??
Hiryu and Akagi?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_the_superstructure_of_an_aircraft_carrier_on_the_starboard_side?#slide=2
Traffic patterns, apparently.
Normal circuits are flown anti-clockwise (always to the left) as seen from above. That puts the island out of the way.
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rickshaw

Quote from: aston on February 15, 2014, 10:19:28 AM
Practises and displays for Londoners on the Thames, playing with Tower Bridge ....  :lol:

I think the problems were spotted early on .... !

Yes. The Royal Navy did a lot of testing with models.  The airflow patterns were determined to be most favourable on carriers with single islands, one side or the other.  While this became less important as aircraft speeds and engine power increased and angle decks were developed, the fashion had set in.  The side the island was placed on was determined by the traffic patterns and the traffic patterns tended to be determined by the torque of the propeller rotation.   The Japanese, being Japanese of course had to be different to everybody else.  ;)

Putting two islands, one each side was found to create a "wind tunnel effect" and the wind speed made landing more difficult for the lower powered biplanes just after WWII.   It was also felt it would more likely cause greater risk of accident, particularly with the flying bridge over the top.   I've seen articles in various naval journals which went back and re-examined all this and they had some wonderful pictures of the models used in the tanks.  They had Port mounted Islands, split landing on and taking off decks (aft and fore, respectively), starboard mounted Islands, split Islands on both sides, etc., etc.
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aston

That's very interesting. Any signs of ski jumps in among those early experiments?

What would the take off speed have been for those 20s aircraft? If the ship could make about 30knots what would the take off and landing distance have been? Not much, presumably .... so were arresters needed then? I know I've seen net systems ......

On tv today someone was climbing the rigging of a tall ship to the first platform, saying the wind speed there was a third greater than at sea level ..... perhaps comparable to a typical flight deck height? It suggests it must be bloomin' windy on carrier flight decks .

ysi_maniac

What if HMS Hood à la Richelieu (top), alternatively a more british option with bits taken from KGV

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ysi_maniac

#22
What if HMS Hood equipped with huge 20 inch artillery? 3x2



EDIT: 2x2 may be a better idea :-\
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NARSES2

#23
Suits that layout  :thumbsup:

The R.N. did "play" with the idea of 20" guns in the thinking behind the heavy battlecruiser named HMS Incomparable by Jackie Fisher, but it never got anywhere even on paper.
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ysi_maniac

Two alternatives to install 2 quadruple 14 inch turrets (from kgv class) in HMS Hood. Old secubdary artillery is deleted and main turrets of HMS Belfast are intalled too.

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