Operation Cosford 2012

[Martin H]

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What follows kicked off in the What if sig members area back in November 2011. It has been on going in that section of the forum since then. Its now been moved to the main forum so those out side of the SIG who have been roped in/volunteered/blackmailed ect into taking part can follow the thread.

enjoy the madness
Martin H
IPMS (UK) What if? Special Interest Group leader
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Right the evil plan alluded to in the Shropshire show thread in the main forum events section is as follows.

This project is based on a few comments on here between Kit, Jim and myself, and further discussion at SMW.

We set up the stand for the Cosford show as an alternative RAFM Cosford. Ok only two hangers.......... Ive booked and paid for a 3rd table so we can have a free style area for those not taking part.

Now this means those wanting to take part will have to agree to a single scale. In this case 1/72nd. We already have three 72nd scale models who's back stories place them on display at cosford. The idea is to follow the lay out of the chosen hangers as close as possible. so Numbers on display will need to be limited. Ive chosen hangers one and two, the two that are side by side behind the cold war hall. Why? simple The R&D hanger is perfect for the project cancelled boys, and the other has a diverse age range for the aircraft on display. So every era from the 1930's onwards can be covered. And we can slot in a few captured birds as well.
We can take a few liberties with the number of models we put in,as we dont need to worry to much about clear views from the walk ways.

The primary aim of this plan, is to screw with the minds of the RAFM staff and any rivet counters that wander past. And as the show is on April 1st, its to good a chance to pass up.

Potential "inmates" for the "hangers" should be posted on this thread, and we (me, kit & Jim) will deliberate on what goes where.

For the next week or two I will keep this thread in the sig members area for your comments, ideas ect.
I will then move it to the main forum to open it up to the PC sig boys and any one else who we can con/bribe/blackmail into joining in  

[lenny100]

OK i got my 1990 Vulcan missileer in air defence gray
a conveir "POGO" gr1 from 1960 in wrap around gray green
a hawker p 1121 in specail markings from 1979

[PR19_Kit]

This project is based on a few comments on here between Kit, Jim and myself, and further discussion at SMW.

Why is it always MY fault? 

I already have the Conavir-Hawker Osprey, the Twin Spitfire F32, the Martin-Baker MB8 Marlin PR1 and perhaps the Fw-190 A3/U10 Seewurger that would be applicable.

Bizarrely the PR19 isn't, as it's the earlier PR19a version and I've committed to OGL that I'll finish the build of the pukka PR19b that IS currently at Cosford........... 

[Weaver]

By no means certain that I can attend, but assuming I could, would you be interested in a prototype advanced Lysander, with an in-line engine and retractable gear in stub wings with two drop tanks on the tips, finished in high-speed silver with prototype "P"s?

[PR19_Kit]

By no means certain that I can attend, but assuming I could, would you be interested in a prototype advanced Lysander, with an in-line engine and retractable gear in stub wings with two drop tanks on the tips, finished in high-speed silver with prototype "P"s?

What a silly question, of COURSE we're interested, it would fit the subject exactly!

'The Lysander IV, which was developed in early 1940 from designs started before WWII. Unfortunately the supply of Kestrel engines became limited due to Rolls-Royce's concentration on Merlin production and the aircraft on show was the only Lysander IV ever built.'

[Martin H]

ohhhhh a souped up Lizzy. As Kit says silly question lol

[Geoff]

Do these need to be based on actual exhibits at the RAFM or can we well do our usual thing? If they have to be based on whats there I will need to do a bit of research.

I was thinking about a tarted up Meteor 8 a bit like Spinners art work of the USAF ground attack planes. That was based on a RW project, probably a bit tame though?. There never was a Meteor FR-8 was there?

[thedarkmaster]

I have the 1/72 Concored bomber if you need her also the Far eastern air force Valiant

[Geoff]

Do these need to be based on actual exhibits at the RAFM or can we well do our usual thing? If they have to be based on whats there I will need to do a bit of research.

I was thinking about a tarted up Meteor 8 a bit like Spinners art work of the USAF ground attack planes. That was based on a RW project, probably a bit tame though?. There never was a Meteor FR-8 was there?

OK, I offer a G-44 Meteor of an operational sqd in Sand/Stone/Blue, +/- an AAR probe and/or camera carrying reworked drop tank.

[kitbasher]

My fixed-wing Tornado idea is still on offer, Martin.  I've a Flitzer currently in Swedish markings that I can re-do as the Swiss Venom if anyone has any suitable markings going spare (I was planning on painting up as anearly Vampire F.1 for the 'captured' theme build anyway, but what with the wing sweep the Venom idea is better - I'm sure I can find a pair of suitable wing tip drop tanks).  Will check if the IPMS decal bank has anything available.  My AAC Norseman in lieu of the Argus?

A couple of ideas for anyone to take up - a Mirage V painted up as the Fairey Delta, and maybe a Spit XIV as the James May Spitfire?

Ooh - and maybe my 'Lightningski' either for a P1 substitute or indeed the Cold War museum's Lightning.  Staying in red stars, of course.

[Geoff]

I have got a Mig-21SMT in Lightning greys scheme with the pink roundels from a while back as well, and an Su-15 in NMF and 11sqd markings IIRC.

[PR19_Kit]

There never was a Meteor FR-8 was there?

There was an FR9 and a PR10. Bizarrely the FR9 was based on the F8, with the square tail and the PR10 was based on the F4, with the earlier rounded tail. The FR9 had guns and the PR10 didn't.

[kitbasher]

ohhhhh a souped up Lizzy.

A Bristol Hercules would get the JMNs going more than a Kestrel, I'd suggest.

[Mossie]

Already built I've got my Op Granby two seater (it's a bit weathered & 'operational' but your welcome to it) as well as my floatplane P-40.  I'm sure I can come up with something else before then, even at the snails pace I build at!

[Martin H]

Do these need to be based on actual exhibits at the RAFM or can we well do our usual thing? If they have to be based on whats there I will need to do a bit of research.

I was thinking about a tarted up Meteor 8 a bit like Spinners art work of the USAF ground attack planes. That was based on a RW project, probably a bit tame though?. There never was a Meteor FR-8 was there?

It doesnt have to be a based on actual exhibits, If that was the case Kits Meteor PR-19 wouldnt count.

I like Kitbashers idea of swapping the Argus for his Norseman, and the venom for a flitzer. The fixed wing Tonka is also ideal for hanger two.

I also like the sound of Geoff's Mig 21. The Su-15 sounds good as well. Im just wondering which one has more "shock" value.

Lenny's P1121 fits the bill for a former in service example.

Tims Valiant could take the place of the Lincoln. The Bombcorde is to big for the "hangers" but would look good "moored alongside" next to them on the free style display area.

Any one got a whiffed medium sized flying boat similar in size to a PBY?