Operation Cosford 2012

Started by Martin H, November 16, 2011, 08:32:38 AM

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Geoff

Quote from: Geoff on November 24, 2011, 10:27:38 AM
Do you want the Mig-21 or Su-15, both in RAF markings?

Martin,
Sorry to be a nit but these are both MIA at the moment. I do have a Fleet Air Arm Mig-15UTI. But I would have thought the  "NAVY" titles might disqualify it from an RAF museum. If I turn the others up I will PM you.
Geoff.

Martin H

I always hope for the best.
Unfortunately,
experience has taught me to expect the worst.

Size (of the stash) matters.

IPMS (UK) What if? SIG Leader.
IPMS (UK) Project Cancelled SIG Member.

Weaver

Quote from: Weaver on November 24, 2011, 08:18:38 AM
Given my poor building rate at the moment, I think I should steer clear of giving firm comittments to tricky projects. Looking at those plans, I don't see a place for my souped-up Lysander, so I'll withdraw it.


Things I could do very easily:

1. Me.1111 (PM kit) to replace the Me-163

2. Red Arrows Fiat-91 to replace the Red Arrows Gnat




Suggestions:

The logical replacement for the SR-53 would surely be Freightdog's Avro 720? (I havn't got one...)

The logical replacement for one of the Lightnings would be Freightdog's SR.177 (ditto...)

The logical replacement for the Pucara would be a Bronco in Argentine colours.

The Me.1111 has been started....

(Not trying to bounce you into choosing it: I wanted to build it anyway).
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Martin H

sounds good to me.

We will get the ball rolling again once xmas/new year is out of the way. Ive had to put a lot of things on the back burner due to increased work commitments. That is going to carry on untill February when I cease doing two jobs and get 100% into my new supervisors role.
I always hope for the best.
Unfortunately,
experience has taught me to expect the worst.

Size (of the stash) matters.

IPMS (UK) What if? SIG Leader.
IPMS (UK) Project Cancelled SIG Member.

Weaver

No Probs Martin.

I'm now looking at doing it in the "captured" markings of the Me 163 which Eric Brown tested, just to muddy the waters a bit further..... :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Martin H

I always hope for the best.
Unfortunately,
experience has taught me to expect the worst.

Size (of the stash) matters.

IPMS (UK) What if? SIG Leader.
IPMS (UK) Project Cancelled SIG Member.

Weaver

Yes, the ideal outcome would be a pair of JMNs throttling each other over whether the underside was grey or yellow (all the photos are black and white and sources differ) without noticing that it's the wrong aeroplane..... :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Weaver on December 31, 2011, 08:44:29 AM
Yes, the ideal outcome would be a pair of JMNs throttling each other over whether the underside was grey or yellow (all the photos are black and white and sources differ) without noticing that it's the wrong aeroplane..... :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

I think I'd pay money to watch that.  ;D :lol:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

It's just occured to me (and yes I KNOW it's almost 4 am.....) that I have another candidate for this project already in build.

My Jet Provost T6, fitted with a delta wing for the initial training of Vulcan crews on 230 OCU, would make an ideal candidate to replace the Avro 707C that sits alongside the TSR2.  ;D

I better get a move on, less than 3 months to go and at least two models to build!  :banghead:

Progress, for want of a better term, to date here :-

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,23881.15.html
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Weaver

How about replacing one of the high-speed experimental types with an Avro Z.101, i.e. a manned Blue Steel (real project)? There's line drawings in Secret Proejcts: Space Technology and Chris Gibson's "Vulcan's Hammer" book, along with a nice painting in the latter.

I'm not offering to build one because I don't have a Blue Steel donor, but I do have a Monogram 1/72nd X-15 that could donate its cockpit canopy (solid windows, I'm afraid) if somebody was serious about making the Z.101 happen.... :wacko:

More discussion here: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php?topic=30086.0 
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

kitbasher

I'm working on a couple of 'Cosford Candidates' that I'll post pics of in due course so OGL can give them the thumbs up/down for show.  One of them won't be what's probably the most obvious JMN bait and that is a Vigilante painted up as the Cosford TSR2, simply because I don't have a spare Vigi or spare TSR2 decals.  Any takers for the idea?   ;D ;D
What If? & Secret Project SIG member.
On the go: Beaumaris/Battle/Bronco/Barracuda/F-105(UK)/Flatning/Hellcat IV/Hunter PR11/Hurricane IIb/Ice Cream Tank/JP T4/Jumo MiG-15/M21/P1103 (early)/P1127/P1154-ish/Phantom FG1/I-153/Sea Hawk T7/Spitfire XII/Spitfire Tr18/Twin Otter/FrankenCOIN/Frankenfighter

PR19_Kit

Quote from: kitbasher on January 15, 2012, 04:03:59 AM
One of them won't be what's probably the most obvious JMN bait and that is a Vigilante painted up as the Cosford TSR2, simply because I don't have a spare Vigi or spare TSR2 decals.  Any takers for the idea?   ;D ;D

Heheh, that's got to be pretty quick and straightforward to build........ ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Nick

Quote from: kitbasher on January 15, 2012, 04:03:59 AM
.... Vigilante painted up as the Cosford TSR2, simply because I don't have a spare Vigi or spare TSR2 decals.  Any takers for the idea?   ;D ;D

In my stash I have a half built Airfix Vigilante and I could take the markings from the TSR.2 kit  :wacko:  I can certainly give the Vigi kit to anyone who wants to do this  :thumbsup:

Not sure I will be attending as there's been a hiccup with the dates I asked for at work. Somebody has moved to my team with pre-approved holiday and I am arguing that I put my request in before he joined so I should have those dates.  :banghead:

Martin H

#118
right, as far as the TSR-2 replacement goes. I am talking the Project canceled boys about getting them involved with some of the R & D projects. One of Geoff's OR339 scratchbuilds is quite likely, althou I like the idea of a "canceled" F-111K if some one wants to claim that.

For the Bristol 188, General Melchet's big hypersonic scratch build is an ideal shoe in.
But we need "replacements" for the Faiery Delta II, Prone Meteor, Avro 707, Hunting H126, The ejector seat testbed meteor, SARO SR-53 and the Shorts SB-5. And the Gnat F-1.

then we have the 2nd hanger to contend with................... every thing in there is up for grabs
I always hope for the best.
Unfortunately,
experience has taught me to expect the worst.

Size (of the stash) matters.

IPMS (UK) What if? SIG Leader.
IPMS (UK) Project Cancelled SIG Member.

lenny100

i got the hunting h126 and the cat and one of the lightings
Me, I'm dishonest, and you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest.
Honestly, it's the honest ones you have to watch out for!!!