Phaedra Models

[rickshaw]

I recently came across brand of resin models on EvilBay.  In fact, they appear only available on EvilBay, through a particular seller "e-cellaronline".   There are apparently thus far only five kits:

Mirage F2 - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DASSAULT-MIRAGE-F-2-RESIN-KIT-1-72-PHAEDRA-MODELS-/150676901751?pt=FR_YO_JeuxJouets_MaquettesModelisme&hash=item23150b0f77

Mirage G - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DASSAULT-MIRAGE-G-RESIN-KIT-1-72-PHAEDRA-MODELS-/160665632647?pt=FR_YO_JeuxJouets_MaquettesModelisme&hash=item25686aff87

MiG Ye-152p/m - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MIKOYAN-YE-152-P-M-EXPERIMENTAL-MACH-3-RESIN-KIT-1-72-PHAEDRA-MODELS-READ-/150711585770?pt=FR_YO_JeuxJouets_MaquettesModelisme&hash=item23171c4bea

MiG Ye-152/1 - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MIKOYAN-YE-152-1-EXPERIMENTAL-MACH-3-RESIN-KIT-1-72-PHAEDRA-MODELS-READ-/150711584266?pt=FR_YO_JeuxJouets_MaquettesModelisme&hash=item23171c460a

Sukhoi T-37 fighter - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUKHOI-T-37-EXPERIMENTAL-MACH-3-INTERCEPTOR-RESIN-KIT-1-72-PHAEDRA-MODELS-READ-/150711582543?pt=FR_YO_JeuxJouets_MaquettesModelisme&hash=item23171c3f4f

From the pictures available, they appear very nicely cast indeed.

[The Wooksta!]

Isn't that the third Mirage G in the space of a year?

[kitnut617]

there are two Mirage G8's, one from Planet, the other from Anigrand.

Sharkit does/did one too

[lancer]

Not entirely sure about the about the Mirage, but those YE-152's do look yummy....sort of like a SU11 on steroids!!

[RussC]

Not entirely sure about the about the Mirage, but those YE-152's do look yummy....sort of like a SU11 on steroids!!

 And the YE-152 was a twin engine fighter, a real hot rod. The canopy looks like those for racing planes, and the area rule of the fuselage was probably deeper than even the B-58.
 
 It was always of interest how Otaki somehow called this plane the "Mig 23 Flipper" after a NATO code naming and threat assessment goof-up had called the 152 operational. Otaki released this in 1/144th scale and it is even still being molded today by first the Entex label and then by other Asian molders. I used a few to scratchbuild Su-15A's in 1/144th until Trumpeter came up with the Chinese F8 II finback which converts even easier to the hard to get Flagons.
 Anigrand now has a superb YE-152 as a bonus kit in 1/144th. And the Su-15 can be had in 144th from Miniwing resins of Czechoslovakia (formerly FE resins).
 
 I whiffed a YE-152 Entex kit into a Chinese version, shown here at front left with other Sino aircraft such as the Aforementioned Trumpeter 1/144th F8 finback plus a Mig 17 and a F-2 (Chinese Mig-21-ish machine) plus an Attack Hobby Mig 21 in PLAAF markings and a Eurofighter Typhoon (Revell) converted to a J-10 (Vigorous Dragon) in the background.
 
 

[PR19_Kit]

At the Coventry Traders Show today we were commenting on the Chinese' propensity for naming their aircraft after various 'Dragons', as in the 'Vigorous Dragen' mentioned above.

This morphed into us wondering what a 'Puny Dragon' or a 'Timid Dragon' would look like....... 

[rickshaw]

On the Ye-152s, Omega does on in Russia but it costs $US150 (last time I checked).  I have been hunting for an affordable Ye-152 in 1/72 and given up, deciding to scratchbuild my own, which is now half finished and then, the other day amongst my normal raft of EvilBay alerts was the Phaedra one.   Damn.  Wouldn't you know it, as soon as you make one of your own, someone mass produces it!   

[rickshaw]

 And the YE-152 was a twin engine fighter, a real hot rod. The canopy looks like those for racing planes, and the area rule of the fuselage was probably deeper than even the B-58.

Dunno how you conclude that.  The Ye-152's fuselage is basically a cylinder, dead straight with a slight bulge at the rear on the version with the twin engines.  Its always surprised me how little obvious area ruling there was in the design.

[RussC]

At the Coventry Traders Show today we were commenting on the Chinese' propensity for naming their aircraft after various 'Dragons', as in the 'Vigorous Dragen' mentioned above.

This morphed into us wondering what a 'Puny Dragon' or a 'Timid Dragon' would look like.......  

Actually the one in my user picture is yukkuri Ryuu - leisure or lazy dragon. Although I have also nicknamed him the "Lunch Fury".  

If someone was whiffing up a Chinese drone aircraft, puny might be the way to go for names. Reminds me of the character Mushu in the animated "Mulan".
 

[RussC]

 And the YE-152 was a twin engine fighter, a real hot rod. The canopy looks like those for racing planes, and the area rule of the fuselage was probably deeper than even the B-58.

Dunno how you conclude that.  The Ye-152's fuselage is basically a cylinder, dead straight with a slight bulge at the rear on the version with the twin engines.  Its always surprised me how little obvious area ruling there was in the design.

Maybe I need to look at my copy of Yefim Gordon's book again then. That Otaki/Entex model not only had a big curve from the upper POV but from the side it slanted down slightly. That model was one of the crudest kits I can remember, too... on a par with Starfix. The inlet was simply molded flat, going from fuselage to the intake cone radome, paint the inlet black or carve it out and get a new radome. Fortunately at 144th scale, rehabilitating a c__p kit is a lot easier to do it seems, just by having less plastic surface to contend with. 

[Mossie]

Gotta love the Ye-152.   Same I can't afford resin prices at the mo, I'm hopeing Art Model get around to releasing one.

 And the YE-152 was a twin engine fighter, a real hot rod. The canopy looks like those for racing planes, and the area rule of the fuselage was probably deeper than even the B-58.

Dunno how you conclude that.  The Ye-152's fuselage is basically a cylinder, dead straight with a slight bulge at the rear on the version with the twin engines.  Its always surprised me how little obvious area ruling there was in the design.

Maybe I need to look at my copy of Yefim Gordon's book again then. That Otaki/Entex model not only had a big curve from the upper POV but from the side it slanted down slightly. That model was one of the crudest kits I can remember, too... on a par with Starfix. The inlet was simply molded flat, going from fuselage to the intake cone radome, paint the inlet black or carve it out and get a new radome. Fortunately at 144th scale, rehabilitating a c__p kit is a lot easier to do it seems, just by having less plastic surface to contend with. 

Checked my copy to tweek the memory. There were several variants of the Ye-152 built from three airframes (I think), Ye-152-1, Ye-152-2, Ye-152A, Ye-152P & Ye-152M (also known as Ye-166).  The Ye-152A is the twin engine variant (actually gained the NATO code Flipper), the others were all single engine.

[RussC]

Gotta love the Ye-152.   Same I can't afford resin prices at the mo, I'm hopeing Art Model get around to releasing one.

 And the YE-152 was a twin engine fighter, a real hot rod. The canopy looks like those for racing planes, and the area rule of the fuselage was probably deeper than even the B-58.

Dunno how you conclude that.  The Ye-152's fuselage is basically a cylinder, dead straight with a slight bulge at the rear on the version with the twin engines.  Its always surprised me how little obvious area ruling there was in the design.

Maybe I need to look at my copy of Yefim Gordon's book again then. That Otaki/Entex model not only had a big curve from the upper POV but from the side it slanted down slightly. That model was one of the crudest kits I can remember, too... on a par with Starfix. The inlet was simply molded flat, going from fuselage to the intake cone radome, paint the inlet black or carve it out and get a new radome. Fortunately at 144th scale, rehabilitating a c__p kit is a lot easier to do it seems, just by having less plastic surface to contend with. 

Checked my copy to tweek the memory. There were several variants of the Ye-152 built from three airframes (I think), Ye-152-1, Ye-152-2, Ye-152A, Ye-152P & Ye-152M (also known as Ye-166).  The Ye-152A is the twin engine variant (actually gained the NATO code Flipper), the others were all single engine.

  Yes, there were a string of these Mikoyan designs, I still have to one day mount a expedition into my library pile to find that book by Gordon...Plus - from memory of reading, the Sukhoi OKB during that same time period also had a big string of designs based on the Su-9/11 types, even some that look like missing links blending right into the Flagons. Amazing how many permutations could come out of a simple stovepipe fuselage with a nose inlet and a basic swept or delta wing added.
 
  I have no doubts that Otaki and other early molders of these more obscure Soviet designs took liberties with dimensions and the proportions too.
 
  According to a workplace colleague who was stationed in Japan in the later 1970's with the USAF - his specialty was Avionics Intel- He was dispatched to the Hakodate airport on the report of a landing of a defected Mig of latest design, probably Foxbat. They arrived to find a team of Japanese model kit manufacture designers finishing up photographing and measuring every inch of the beast and even had the nose radome, Cockpit and other covers opened. His team then went on to their task to see if the craft was booby trapped in sensitive areas (it was , but he couldn't tell me how- it was only 5 years after the fact) He noted when he saw my kit of the "flipper" on my shelf of curios in my office about the whole fiasco about these NATO codenames and that the Mig 23 name and spurious nicknames were applied to first the Ye-152 which he clearly identified as such, plus the Mig 25 was called 23 for a time and was called flogger and then eventually the names settled accurately onto the third item, the actual swing wing Mikoyan ship we all know today. That confused era reinforced the fact that Russian design designations are not always presented in sequence or in full, probably both deliberately and by simple fact that multiple designs were often in the works at once and were often confused in the west with similar's from other OKB's.

[Thorvic]

Yeap its Anigrand, if you check their ebay store they have the full range of Anigrand kits and the Soviet Jets due in Feb actually say its produced in cooperation with Anigrand.

Good news on the Mirage IIIV, i suspect that may be an addition to next years wish list ?

[rickshaw]

So, how does it compare to the Mirage F.1?  Considerably larger?

I'm about to order one for myself but I'm really holding out on the Ye-152 kits for next year.  They are much more interesting.

[famvburg]

  Thanks for posting the info! I just bought my Christmas!